ABFoz
Forum Member
- Joined
- Mar 24, 2018
- Messages
- 955
- Location
- Auckland, New Zealand
- Car Year
- 2005
- Car Model
- Forester XS
- Transmission
- 4EAT
Not necessarily because of the torque converter. It's because our torque converter transmissions, 4EAT, 5EAT and CVT, do not have a decent low-range or crawl ratio so when tackling obstacles, the speed may not be enough to lock the torque converter clutch so fluid drive is used. When fluid drive is used too much, the fluid overheats.Thats exactly whats happening its stalls but sure i wanna for its still try to go forward. So thats why they puting those larger or better gearbox oil coolers in front main radiator at least on older foresters imprezas guys doing that here. Simple mods .
Mine raises engine temp pretty fast if im torturing it.
So thats why proper 4x4 cars doesnt have this problem and we do? For that torque converter?
To mitigate the increase in temperature, according to many Subaru mechanics that I know, fully synthetic ATF is used. When on fluid drive and with fully-synthetic, the TCU detects the required torque figures earlier then locks up the clutch earlier. Fully-synthetic fluid also dissipates heat much better than semi- and breaks down much more slowly. The drawback is that shifting can be harsher and there will be a feeling of under-poweredness in the highway because the lockup occurs at much lower RPMs.
Another thing is to install an additional cooler but, as discussed here before, it will also affect the time it requires to get the transmission to operating temperature. It's more of getting the proper balance, really.
The ATF overheat is not only a Subaru thing. Any transmission with a torque converter can have the same issue. To be fair to Subaru, they have better cooling than most manufacturers of the same vehicle classes. Old XJs also burn their old ATF and if that happens, usually the whole transmission blows! The newer Ford Rangers also have transmission blowing in some conditions, mostly towing - pretty common here but drivers here are harsh to their trucks. Cheers.