HotBits coilovers

The Forester has a new nick name given by the passengers I had on board for the last trip in Auvergne (Creuse), France....."Aladdin" because it went over obstacles like a flying carpet :biggrin:
 
Not bad yes. Cv axles not wearing faster because they more flexing? For that price they should be made of gold.
 
No, because I'm in the tolerance and at ride height I have 2" lift from stock. The rear axles have 230'000 km and the front are scrap yard SVX axles...
 
Aloha! So if Im read thru all these posts correctly. I should be able to order a naked set of dt1 from hotbits 16" barrel springs from eibach and a 1" trailing arm spacer for an 03 SG5 and be fine?
 
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Yes ! But you will also have to custom build a rear upper spring seat like shown on this picture :

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Since this picture, the sides have been cut smaller, 1cm high from the inside because of the barrel type Eibach springs
 
Buying another set of top hats to modify before pulling apart your car was an intelligent way of doing it...


What specs/strokes are you going to get on the Hotibts and what spring rates are you going to get on the Eibachs?
 
Habari from Kenya! add another nutter doing this mod!!
however i am building a rally raid toy and going dt2 with pivot mounts.

i have an SF5 2.0 turbo.


been analyzing this thread quite a bit.


REDXS. with your 300mm rears are you getting the full stroke? you dropped your diff which helps get stroke. full stroke or not yet? whats binding, trailing arm? do you have any spacer on the trailing arm?



jf1sf5 you say 210mm max front stroke. but then also 240mm max stroke. is this for SF and SG separately or?


i am looking at 240 front and 300 rear as i am looking for max travel.


i have no spacers nor do i want any, but can fabricate if required.



would be happy with a taller ride height of 2.5in fr and 3.0 rr from the stiffer springs.



running 215/75 R15 MT
 
I have an SF, and 220-230mm is maximum stroke for the front if everything else is stock, especially the inner CV axles.

Now if you want more stroke at the front of an SF, go for SG A-arms and SVX axles. This new combination can give a gain of another 10mm of stroke (250mm) and 20mm more droop because the housings have to be longer, I actually have 370mm front housings but would need 380mm housings for more stroke...but its going to stay as it is !

I don't think you can get 300mm usable stroke at the rear, that would be 325mm shafts as the top hats "eat" 25mm of the stroke. I haven't tried it but from what I experienced, the CV axles won't go that far of an angle. If you want that much stroke, you have to install a 1" subframe lift. The same can be done to the front too ! See Jeremiah's kit.
 
thanks jf1sf5


the SVX is not a local model so no access to that axle.


in ref the front. adding 1 inch sub frame spacers would allow the full 240mm stroke?


in ref the rear i asked for 300mm stroke and will use their pillow ball mounts, and not 325mm, unless i am missing something?


if these struts generally give a 2 inch lift, adding the 1 inch sub frame spacers would give it one more to 3 inch?


Jeremiah is using a 3 inch body lift? and overall 5 inches taller? thats too much for raid.
 
Correct for the front.

Using their pillow ball mounts, 270mm stroke/shaft is maximum. I had this setup at first but came back to oem top mounts. I custom made some 25mm shaft extends for the rear to compensate the loss in the top mounts.

1" body lift will allow you for 1/2" (13mm) longer front shafts and 1/2" (13mm) longer front housing (total 383mm)

At the rear, 1" body lift can give you 1" longer shafts because you are not limited by the length of the housing.
 
i am beginning to understand this a bit more. many thanks


emailing Toh to keep on hold for a bit!


is it possible to shorten the housings at all from oe length?


something like the below? rod lengths from Toh. sf housing lengths from jeremiah.

Stock rod length (rear): 225mm
New rod length: 270mm
Difference: +45mm (this is the additional travel as well)

Stock Housing length: 445mm
New housing length: 475mm
Difference: 30mm

Sum of Differences: 45+30= 75mm total additional length over stock.

Stock rod length (front): 141mm
New rod length: 220mm
Difference: +79mm (additional travel as well)

Stock housing length: 380mm
New housing length: 364.5mm
Difference: -15.5mm

Sum of Differences: 79+(-15.5)= 63.5mm total additional length over stock.
 
intention above is a 2.5 fr and 3.0 rr lift situation whilst achieving maximum travel as suggested on this thread using OE SF5 components and at max a 1 inch trailing arm spacer additional requirement.
 
Yes, its what I did/asked Toh to do.

For the front, just go 370mm housing and 230mm rod/shaft length. You can also go for 240mm rod/shaft and ask him to add 10mm inner nylon shims to "shorten" the shaft to 230mm

For the rear, go with 440mm housing and 270mm rod/shaft length with pillow ball mounts, or 300mm with custom SG top mounts. You could even ask him 310mm rod/shafts and also add 10mm inner nylon shims. You can also go for 310mm rod/shafts and shorten them to 270mm with 40mm shims.

With this combo, you get the maximum out of a non body lifted SF !
 
super!


next hurdle suitable springs!


will eibach 14 inch allow full stroke to take place?



the 16 inch come in maximum 250 lb.


i was thinking 280 for the front and 200 rear.
 
Why do you want springs with this rate ? On the DT2's, you can tune the hydraulics through the compression and rebound knobs. What are you going to do with the car ? What sort of terrain ? Fast or slow ? With jumps, corrugations ?
 
REDXS. with your 300mm rears are you getting the full stroke? you dropped your diff which helps get stroke. full stroke or not yet? whats binding, trailing arm? do you have any spacer on the trailing arm?
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1" rear subframe spacers and 3" trailing arm spacers give me full droop. With my old 40mm trailing arm spacers the trailing arms were binding and limiting droop. As stated above the modified SG top mounts remove 25mm of travel. Without modification you lose 50mm of travel.


275lb/in 14" springs are advertised with 232mm travel. You would want your springs to have more travel then that. Hard to say with out knowing all the specs of your car and what you are using it for, but you will probably max the spring extension before you max the shock extension which makes full droop pointless.
 
car is to be used for rally raid. rear overhang chopped and further chopped into pickup.


locally 60kg front and 55kg is the popular choice for rally.


i am thinking 60kg fr and 45kg rr in straight spring.


good for 242mm fr and 258mm rr travel per eibach



add/deduct bumpstops at 30mm i think i should be good?
 
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