lift my scoobie

[Ratbag]

Thanks for jogging my memory on that, Pedro.

I think this is the thread you are referring to:

https://www.offroadsubarus.com/showthread.php?t=4137

This post by me in particular lists the relevant sections of the relevant legislative instruments:

https://www.offroadsubarus.com/showpost.php?p=52173&postcount=6

 

[pezimm]

https://www.offroadsubarus.com/showpost.php?p=52173&postcount=6

This is the one I meant...

Have a look on VSB 14 item 4.2.4:

It covers passenger cars first (50mm lift and 15mm tyre increase) and then it goes into 4WDs. For these vehicles, the regulations are indeed 75mm lift and 25mm tyre diameter. The interesting point is it states this applies to MC category vehicles, but it also says Soft-Roaders - even if classified as MC category - are not included.

The definitive question is: Are Foresters soft-roaders? And I'm afraid they are, so regardless of what the plate says, they fall on passenger car regulations...

So in the interest of allowing people to make informed decisions: 50mm lift with 15mm bigger tyres will keep you legal for sure. I'm yet to see someone test the system and try to argue that 75mm lift with 25mm tyres should apply to a Forester (or any other Subaru), but I would be very happy to see that confirmed!

Most people here have positive experiences with 1in lift block and raised HD king springs. I, for one, run this setup and don't believe it adds any danger compared to stock. Tannin's was the first case I heard where someone was really concerned for the vehicle's safety. It would be great to really get to the bottom of his case to understand what, if anything, is different to mine and others' setup.

Pedro.

 

[Ratbag]

Gidday again Pedro

This is the one I meant...

Have a look on VSB 14 item 4.2.4:

It covers passenger cars first (50mm lift and 15mm tyre increase) and then it goes into 4WDs. For these vehicles, the regulations are indeed 75mm lift and 25mm tyre diameter. The interesting point is it states this applies to MC category vehicles, but it also says Soft-Roaders - even if classified as MC category - are not included.

The definitive question is: Are Foresters soft-roaders? And I'm afraid they are, so regardless of what the plate says, they fall on passenger car regulations...

So in the interest of allowing people to make informed decisions: 50mm lift with 15mm bigger tyres will keep you legal for sure.

You are quite right, mate. As the chief protagonist for that interpretation, I'm really surprised that I had forgotten it ... Whoops !! I can only excuse my lapse by explaining that I have been doing heavy physical work all week, and it's bloody near killed me!

I'm yet to see someone test the system and try to argue that 75mm lift with 25mm tyres should apply to a Forester (or any other Subaru), but I would be very happy to see that confirmed!

That's never going to happen. The ADRs are what they are ...

Most people here have positive experiences with 1in lift block and raised HD king springs. I, for one, run this setup and don't believe it adds any danger compared to stock. Tannin's was the first case I heard where someone was really concerned for the vehicle's safety. It would be great to really get to the bottom of his case to understand what, if anything, is different to mine and others' setup.

Pedro.

Thanks for correcting me on that.
Big time brain fart on my part ... :iconwink: :lol: :rotfl:

[EDIT] I have edited my original post to correct that misinformation. [end edit]

 

[idw]

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MC category vehicles, but it also says Soft-Roaders - even if classified as MC category - are not included.

The definitive question is: Are Foresters soft-roaders? And I'm afraid they are, so regardless of what the plate says, they fall on passenger car regulations

4.3.3. OFF-ROAD PASSENGER VEHICLE (MC)
A passenger vehicle having up to 9 seating positions, including that of the driver and being designed with special features for off-road operation. A vehicle with special features for off-road operation is a vehicle that:
(a) Unless otherwise ‘Approved‘ has 4 wheel drive; and
(b) has at least 4 of the following 5 characteristics calculated when the vehicle is at its ‘Unladen Mass‘ on a level surface, with the front wheels parallel to the vehicle’s longitudinal centreline, and the tyres inflated to the ‘Manufacturer‘s’ recommended pressure:
(i) ‘Approach Angle‘ of not less than 28 degrees;
(ii) ‘Breakover Angle‘ of not less than 14 degrees;
(iii) ‘Departure Angle‘ of not less than 20 degrees;
(iv) ‘Running Clearance‘ of not less than 200 mm;
(v) ‘Front Axle Clearance‘, ‘Rear Axle Clearance‘ or ‘Suspension Clearance‘ of not less than 175 mm each.

There is no mention of a definition of what is a "soft roader" i know its off topic but does anyone know where to find a definition?

I might start a new thread, as what I'm looking for isn't lift related. Lift wise mc laws don't directly apply as the forester is built on the imprezer platform. I'm interested bull bar wise.

 

[jf1sf5]

BTW, I've found some front springs, but I think they're from an SF. Can anyone tell me how to recognise sf from sg?

The front SG springs should be longer than the SF because it sits about 15 mm lower on the strut. The diameter is however the same.

 

[Tweaksta]

quite the controversial thread i have started haha, mate i just want to know where the cheapest place i can get 1" lift spacers from.

i appreciate all the other comments though, its been good reading thru them and getting a better understanding of how the subbie works/handles

To answer your question, the cheapest lift spacers are from Paranoid Fabrications - www.paranoidfabrications.com - I just ordered a 1" pair for my rear. $88 AUD delivered.

 

[Fazed]

Does that include the stud kit?