Gidday Thunder & Taza
in victoria get your p's at 18 and get off them at 22!!!! its crap! cant drive a turbo untill then, luckily its the end of next year, already saving for a turbo brumby or XT :ebiggrin:
i do a lot of driving! i go home about every 2 weeks which generally makes it a 1000k+ weekend plus when im holidays plenty of camping trips. ive only done 45,000 in my forester as the rest have been in my brumby and my girlfirends magan that we used to have
These restrictions may seem harsh to you.
The powers that be are trying valiantly to keep you
alive.
By the end of the second year of having my licence, 12 people in my final year high school class were dead - killed in road "accidents".
That's 12 out of 72 ...
Think about it.
The death rate from road "accidents" (read: "inexperience + testosterone" ... ) is still around
56/100,000 p.a. among 18 to 25 year old males. At the end of this 7 year period, 392 of them will have died.
What a shocking waste.
Have either of you held your friend close because their son has just died in a car "accident"? I have. There is no fun in it, and no consoling of the parents who have lost their child.
The medication I take to keep me alive has a death rate of
1,700/100,000 p.a. Without it, I will die very quickly indeed. With it, I have some chance of life. This is quite different from the needless deaths of our young people on the roads.
See why us silly old farts around here are so heavy on you youngsters when you do silly things?
We do not want any one of you to be part of that 56 dead young people each year.
To get this death rate into some perspective, almost no motorist dies as a result of their own actions between 25 and 75 ... Sure, some do, but compared with the 18 to 25 y.o. male death rate, it is tiny.
The death rate for 18~25 y.o. males has steadily and significantly declined over the last 50 years. The single biggest cause of this has been the introduction of probationary licences, AFAICS ...
Sorry for the rant, but you both need to understand that the reason these rules exist is to try to protect you from yourselves and each other.
), I will be very interested to hear your comments then on what you have said now ... 
), I was feeling pretty down and my uncle gave me some good advice. He said he doesnt feel safe in a car driven by anyone who hasnt been in an accident as they havent learnt the consequences yet. I did the hard way. 
), I am for the most part a cautious driver. I couldnt count how many times I have avoided an accident from some idiot doing something stupid. My father taught me, when driving on country roads around a blind corner, always drive like ther's a log truck coming the other way. Great advice as its happened a couple of times. Also drivers on my side around a right hand corner or animals on the road.
that brain up, and what makes us a functioning creature goes with it 
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