Driver training, instruction.

^^ You serious?? Far Out :surprised:

I get one every few months in the foz as its always getting knocked out. Mostly offroad but I go over alot of curbs and do U-turns over median strips, etc... all the time in the city.

Maybe I should start doing it myself, it cost me a fortune getting them done all the time!
 
Gidday Taza

^^ You serious?? Far Out :surprised:

I get one every few months in the foz as its always getting knocked out. Mostly offroad but I go over alot of curbs and do U-turns over median strips, etc... all the time in the city.


If you ill-treat your car, this is what happens ... :eek: :shake:.
Eight inch high concrete obstacles that are embedded in the ground another 10~12 inches are a heck of a lot tougher than a car, IME ... :poke:

Maybe I should start doing it myself, it cost me a fortune getting them done all the time!

Maybe you should stop ill-treating your car quite so "vigorously" :iconwink: :lol:?
It will save you heaps of your hard-earned dough mate.
 
If you ill-treat your car, this is what happens ... :eek: :shake:.
Eight inch high concrete obstacles that are embedded in the ground another 10~12 inches are a heck of a lot tougher than a car, IME ... :poke:

Maybe you should stop ill-treating your car quite so "vigorously" :iconwink: :lol:?
It will save you heaps of your hard-earned dough mate.


I wouldn't call it 'ill treating' in anyway more so using a 4wd for what its ment for. IE; going over curbs rather than around them and offroad having fun!

When people don't move up at the lights so you can't clearly get to the arrow which is about to go green why not go up over the curb and zip down to get the green. Save yourself another 5mins of waiting for a whole set of lights to go round.

Having a road car would be different though but I don't want a road car so im not going to go there.
 
Well, you have found 2 ways of saving money. One is to do your own wheel alignments- the other is to be nicer to your car! In my Forrie, I have a disregard for speed humps- generally the slower I go the worse it seems to be unless in low range first- the speed many people insist on going. But speed humps impose totally different loads on a car than a gutter. For a starter you hit them square on, and they are ramped and not sheer. Gutters are nasty things...




^^ You serious?? Far Out :surprised:

I get one every few months in the foz as its always getting knocked out. Mostly offroad but I go over alot of curbs and do U-turns over median strips, etc... all the time in the city.

Maybe I should start doing it myself, it cost me a fortune getting them done all the time!
 
I guess it all comes down to how much your time is worth and how much time you save by driving over curbs. ( our curbs are much nicer than yours over east.)

I'm sorry to get off topic but I went and caught up with the Wozfoz crew last night and they're a pretty decent bunch but haven't done a skid pan sesh for about four years. I'll join up to Perthwrx and see if I can tag along to their next one.

I'm itching to get out there. If it rains on Sunday I will be in the Malaga industrial area.

Might do an oil change tomorrow just in case.
 
Something like this perhaps?

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Hope you had as much fun as i did!
 
I wouldn't call it 'ill treating' in anyway more so using a 4wd for what its ment for. IE; going over curbs rather than around them and offroad having fun!

Ummm... I don't think this was the intention of the 4wd movement when they thought 4wd'n was a good idea. I'm sure there's a law about it somewhere, it's just a case of you getting caught doing it or caught while you're trying to get un-stuck if that unlucky situation ever happens to you.

It's acts such as jumping curbs, U turns over median strips etc that give 4wders a bad name - and brings it directly to the public eye.

Worse still is if you get a reputation in your local area for that sort of stuff - then you'll be on the police "watch list" so to speak.

I think the other thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is that while driver education is great - and I think there should be more of it - there's also the element of self discipline. There's no use having done every single driver course under the sun only then to get behind the wheel and decide not to use it!

Cheers

Bennie
 
Bennie- I mentioned Discipline on P1 of this thread- last line of the second last post on that page. I reckon Attitude is the most important. It determines how much you want to improve your aBility, your degree of maintaining Concentration at the highest level and the commitment to Discipline
 
There's no use having done every single driver course under the sun only then to get behind the wheel and decide not to use it!

Bennie- I mentioned Discipline on P1 of this thread- last line of the second last post on that page. I reckon Attitude is the most important.
Well said on both accounts :)

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
Bennie- I mentioned Discipline on P1 of this thread- last line of the second last post on that page.

Sorry mate, I obviously missed that one - I read it ages ago and picked up where I left off...

I reckon Attitude is the most important. It determines how much you want to improve your aBility, your degree of maintaining Concentration at the highest level and the commitment to Discipline

Spot on the mark as usual mate!

While in Melbourne last friday night I was tooted (not politely either) to enter a 4 lane (total) road with a narrow median strip inbetween by a rather large BMW soft-roader. The thing that boiled my blood was that they were simply sick of waiting - from where I was there were two cars coming from the right and a car from the left waiting to turn into the road I was on. Not a chance that I was going to move.

After the next intersection they hooked an illegal U turn over a dual tramway... Who's the better driver there?? I personally don't get it.

Cheers

Bennie
 
While in Melbourne last friday night I was tooted (not politely either) to enter a 4 lane (total) road with a narrow median strip inbetween by a rather large BMW soft-roader. The thing that boiled my blood was that they were simply sick of waiting - from where I was there were two cars coming from the right and a car from the left waiting to turn into the road I was on. Not a chance that I was going to move.

After the next intersection they hooked an illegal U turn over a dual tramway... Who's the better driver there?? I personally don't get it.

I have quite a dislike of those snobby SUV's that will never see a gravel driveway let alone a dirt road.

They seem to be driven by the least skilled, most arrogant drivers! I know, big generalisation, but.... :(:shake:
 
I work for the RAC and ive done a couple of there Defensive Driving courses out at the RAC Driver Centre through work, and i must say they where pretty good hey and i actually learned alot, You get to go out on the skid pan etc, I think it has changed to way i drive day to day for sure..

I was actually thinking of doing one of 4wd Courses in my Forester one day, (Ill have to try and get my boss to key it up)..
 
I work for the RAC and ive done a couple of there Defensive Driving courses out at the RAC Driver Centre through work, and i must say they where pretty good hey and i actually learned alot, You get to go out on the skid pan etc, I think it has changed to way i drive day to day for sure..

I was actually thinking of doing one of 4wd Courses in my Forester one day, (Ill have to try and get my boss to key it up)..


So your the man to call when we break down hey :lol:

Im with RAC RSA anyway, only used it once when my clutch died last year.

What did you learn with the DDC?

With 4WD'ing really the best thing is just practice. A course wouldn't hurt though but they go through rock crawling, mud and the likes which Subaru's aren't really designed for.. I've never been to one myself though so im not 100% sure what they cover.
 
So your the man to call when we break down hey :lol:

Im with RAC RSA anyway, only used it once when my clutch died last year.

What did you learn with the DDC?

With 4WD'ing really the best thing is just practice. A course wouldn't hurt though but they go through rock crawling, mud and the likes which Subaru's aren't really designed for.. I've never been to one myself though so im not 100% sure what they cover.

Yep im a Road Patrolman, youd be suprised of how many people i go out to that are bogged on the side of the road hey, and i pull them out in a Toyota Hiace..

You learn alot about car control (oversteer understeer differant braking etc) and alot on safety etc they will even teach you how to reverse park hey:lol:, I did the courses through work for Free, But i still think they are a good thing especially for younger drivers that havnt been on the roads that long...

Yeah im not sure about there 4wd course in regards to softroaders, ill have to look into it, i dont think there 4wd course is very hardcore hey as they use Hyundai vehicles now...
 
Yeah im a Road Patrolman hey, youd be suprised of how many people i go out to that are bogged hey, and i pull them out in a Toyota Hiace..

You learn alot about car control (oversteer understeer differant braking etc) and alot on safety etc they will even teach you how to reverse park hey:lol:, I did the courses through work for Free, But i still think they are a good thing especially for younger drivers that havnt been on the roads that long...

Yeah im not sure about there 4wd course in regards to softroaders, ill have to look into it, i dont think there 4wd course is very hardcore hey as they use Hyundai vehicles now...


Haha, Nice. I can't belive people ring up bogged :rotfl:

I would like to do one of those courses (yes im a young driver). I can control my vehicle but i would like to have the skills to be able to be in control if the car slide out or what not. I am actually on my P's and have done 60-70k km of driving in 2years. Mostly country roads as im from up north and I would say for my age im experienced. Especially when it comes to Roo's jumping out and overtaking. I try to use the proper rules when driving in the city most of the time.

Having come from a country town though i've done hundreds of hours of offroading (mostly beach and sand) so I know how to drive on it and the capabilities of my car. I am still even suprised by my car sometimes too :raspberry:

I did sped half a day last year though at this gravel area I found in the bush burning around, doing hand-brake turns and slides to practice being incontrol when it happens. I did learn quite abit but a course is proably a good idea still.
 
i think the driver courses are good if you feel as though you need them. like taza i am a p plater except ive done a good 120,000+ ks since i got my license 3 years ago. i personally dont feel as though i need to do one, although im sure they could teach me something. but i like to practise in a nice green paddock :ebiggrin:
 
i think the driver courses are good if you feel as though you need them. like taza i am a p plater except ive done a good 120,000+ ks since i got my license 3 years ago. i personally dont feel as though i need to do one, although im sure they could teach me something. but i like to practise in a nice green paddock :ebiggrin:

I would call myself a good driver I more so want to pratice doing power slides and burnouts onroad so if the car does slide or become close to rolling im in control. General driving im always in control but I mean if something like that happens. I don't feel I need it but would like to do it, plus as said you always learn things.

You got your licence 3years ago??
I got mine 2, well almost 2 and get off my P's in a few weeks :biggrin:

That's a fair but of driving Thunder.. where the hell have you been going!
 
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