Yoko ATS on current model forester

jaydee

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Hey guys,

Im from Sydney, Australia and i just tried to grab a set of yokoham geo ATS tyres for my Forester XT Premium on the weekend from this place bob jane in hornsby (seen the guys get recommended someone online for these tyres)

Any way, the guy working sales there was the biggest prick and wanted to cause nothing but trouble for me. I asked to get either 215/60/r17 or 225/60/r17 tyres and he wouldnt sell them to me as my stock wheels at 225/55/r17

Got to the point where i just wanted to smack him across the face as he wouldnt even give me a price.

There were two reasons he didnt want to sell them to me. The first being that he reckons those 2 sizes are not made (according to yoko web site, they are) and second he would only sell them to me if i got an engineering certificate for them to make it "legal"

But i cant see a massive problem going from stock 225/55 to 215/60 as its virtually the same.

Its just so hard to find a similar tyre to the yoko geo ats in the subaru forester stock size of 225/55/r17.

Can anyone confirm if the sizes im after are still being made or if anyone know of a suitable alternative in the stock size for my car?

I've spent many many many hours trying to sort something out for my car before starting my epic snow season (plus mild off roading)

Thanks to anyone who can help (esp if your in aus)

Cheers
Jaydee
 
G'Day Jaydee, if I were in your position I would ring around a few plaes and get quotes on the 225/60R17 in the AT-S. If the website says they have them, then im sure they do... you don't need an engineering certificate for larger tyres. Most of us on here are running a larger size on our Subaru's. Ringing up also saves you the hassel of going to the tyre place and talking to them and if you start to disagree or argue with them just hang up. Its as easy as that. I think you would be looking at around $200 a pop, maybe just over. The size you want will fit too and will probably have slight rubbing on full lock.
I am running 215/70R15 on my Forester and they are really good on/off road and from what im told excellent in the snow. So I would highly recommend them.

Regards
Taza
 
You do not need an engineering certificate for larger tires unless in vic and over a certain size more than stock (i think).

Tell him this and if he keeps being a a-hole make sure to point out the fact to him then go to a different place.
 
Perhaps you could send private message to TroyXT, as he's just got a set of Yoko ATS for his diesel Outback. He got the 225/60/17s. Not sure where he got them from, though. He's from Sydney too. As an alternative, you could try and find some 16" subie wheels, like from an 03-08 forester on Ebay, and get the 215/60/16s fitted to those, and keep the standard tyres for the road.

Regards,

Joel
 
thanks for the welcome mate.

Yeah at first i didnt want to do to much off roading, but did some very mild stuff the other week and already hooking up some bash plates, front nudge bar for now, tyres etc..

Dont wanna ruin the car to fast lol.
 
Hi there i have a set of yokohama ats 215/60 17 on my 2006 forrsester got them fitted in tyre shop in rocky they are 22mm bigger in diameter when shouldnt be any bigger than 17mm in Qld have no problems with them biggest thing i think is to check with your inshorer. The shop i got them fitted in just got me to sign that i knew they where slightly oversizr so they arnt liable. I was on 230km of dirt road and was sick of going through tyres everytime o went anywhere of station had very good where and durable as. Let me know if you get any info on engineer certificate would be nice to be totaly legal
 
Sorry to hear of your bad experience at the shop Jaydee.

Regarding legality, here is an excerpt from the RTA guidelines:

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Minor changes to wheels
Wheels up to 26mm wider than the largest optional wheel recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for the vehicle can be fitted without the need to notify the RTA.
The outside diameter of the wheel and tyre combination must be no more than 15mm over the largest diameter wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle and not more than 15mm below the smallest diameter wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle.

Replacement wheels requiring an engineering certificate
Wheels that exceed the diameter and width limits for minor wheel changes must be assessed by a signatory. If the signatory finds that the wheels are safe for your vehicle, you will be issued with an engineering certificate. The vehicle owner must notify the RTA so that registration records can be updated. This is done by obtaining an “Adjustment of Records” and a “blue slip” from an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station (AUVIS). (contact the RTA Customer Service Centre on 13 22 13 for details of your nearest AUVIS). The Adjustment of Records, blue slip and engineering certificate are then presented at a Motor Registry. The owners copy of the engineering certificate is stamped and endorsed by the RTA and must be kept in the vehicle. This certificate must be presented to an authorised officer of the RTA or the Police when requested.

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So strictly speaking in NSW a certificate is required for a change from 225/55/r17 to 225/60/r17 since the outside diameter increase is 2 x (0.60-0.55) x 225 = 22.5mm
 
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hey simxs.

Yeah i know they will be just out of legal specs, but the thing is.. how many other cars have after market rims which are obviously way way to big (all your sporty cars, etc. I know, i also own a wrx)

On this car a slight tyre increase on stock rims... yeah..

I'll just try and get 215/60/r17

I just hope that 215 doesnt look to skinny on my car =P
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. There are certainly a lot of cars and 4wds out there with much bigger increases than 22.5mm. If/when I get a new Forester with 17 inch wheels, I'll probably be getting the ATS in 225/60R17 myself (or at least trying to).

215/60R17 will be ok for diameter increase:

2 x ((0.60 x 215) - (0.55 x 225)) = 10.5mm

Pity to lose that bit of width though as you say.
 
G'day jaydee & :welcome: to ORS.

I've heard that about bob jane before.
Best bet would be to do a little ringing around first. That way you can save time aswell as having to deal with :censored: like him.

When I went for slightly bigger tyres on my Forry, I had them fitted, with no problems at all. Just depends who you go to :)

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
yeah, well here is the thing. I would prefer to get myself the 225/60/r17 tyres

i just hope they fit into the spare wheel well.. thats my biggest worry.

Only one way to find out..
 
I doubt the size will fit in the spare wheel well. Just leave the spare the stock size, thats what I have done. Its a spare and will get you around for a while if need be :) Might look abit funny but it works.

Cheers
Taza
 
I know i've said it before, but i'll say it again. Sure am glad we don't have to put up with those kind of road Nazi's over here in the States!
 
dirtyRU said:
I know i've said it before, but i'll say it again. Sure am glad we don't have to put up with those kind of road Nazi's over here in the States!
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After 15+ years as an immigrant and now a US citizen, all I can say is: "god bless America." The (relative) lack of regulation is one of the main reasons I moved to the States to begin with. It's nice for cars. It's even nicer for aircraft including FAR 103 Ultralights!

As the license plates in New Hampshire say: "Live free, or die!" :biggrin:
 
I once asked the people in Bob Jane about AT for the forester,
they made any possible comment not to sale,
go figure
 
Retailers in Oz have had it way too good for too long. There are all sorts of reasons why a salesperson might push one product over another. Very few of them are in the interests of the customer. Import them directly after doing your own research.
 
225-60-17 yoko ats

I have a 2010x and the first thinkg I did was ditch the street tires(here in the states) for the at's 225-60-17s, then I put the 1" subtle lift on and no rubbing anywhere ever. If I had to do it again, I would go down to 16's and get a 215-70-16 for the bigger sidewalls.;)
 
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