stilsons koni king spring combo!

Venom I have a list of alternative inserts at work I will post tomorrow. I doubt they removed the restrictor. Interested in any more info you can get regarding it.
 
front/rear model suits make pt# dia body length min length max length
f SG kyb
f wrx koni 86101351 44 346 383 560
f scion TC (corrola?) koni 86101416 44 347 395 573
f mr2 koni 86411221 43.7 362 410 580

r SG kyb
r wrx koni 86101408 44 383 440 654
r liberty koni 86101317 44 400 433 675

liberty rear may no longer be available, surely there is some old stock floating around, lets track them down and hoard them!

will try to estimate stock min max when i can.

Damnit still cant get it to space out properly. Can email xl spread if anyone wants to add to it/ RB if you can figure out how to display correctly
 
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Yeah, those liberty rear would be nice with 242 mm stroke.

But for the front, none have more stroke than the oem SG's (190 mm)

If you are looking for more stroke, you can contact Toh at Hotbits.my as he is able to make coil overs at any length. I didn't want any body lift on my Foz so the maximum stroke is 24 cm front (you have to take the sway bar out because of the canisters on full droop) and 26 cm rear…but with a body lift, you could probably get a few more centimeters.
 
^^ ST, email me the excel file. I will convert it to a graphic and insert it into your post.

Br, RB

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Will do RB, right after I add the standard SG values.

I see no reason why the wrx rears couldn't be used in the front.
 
Yep no reason you couldn't put a rear shock insert in the front. Another thing to keep in mind is the min compressed length. It can always be spaced out in the strut housing to achieve a higher overall length if necessary, can't go any smaller though. That liberty rear insert is the best by far in terms of stroke and minimum length. Two more part numbers that would be good to have data on: 86101352 and 86101440 for the rear, and 86103218 which is the front to pair up with the long stroke liberty rear insert.

I actually want more compression in my car so I need to, ideally, have something whose minimum length is less than that of my current outback shocks. That should be achievable because it has the extra 1" length in the base over the lib unit.

Researching last night, this thread is pretty much the ultimate source of info for Koni inserts, with links to numerous builds.
https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/koni-adjustable-strut-inserts-ground-control-coilover-conversion-bk-wagon-223142.html?

What's also interesting is the ground control coil over conversion which allows you to cut away excess spring perch for more tyre clearance and of course infinitely more options in a coil over spring.
https://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=81/CA=90 I think you could be talking about $1200 to aquire 4 koni inserts, ground control coil over conversion + fabrication and alignment. Not bad.

However I think once you get to that point may as well get some HotBits as jf1sf5 has done. jf1sf5 the RS1 hotbits have the remote canister, but so you could avoid that problem with fouling on the swaybar. Imagine they are more expensive though?
 
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However I think once you get to that point may as well get some HotBits as jf1sf5 has done. jf1sf5 the RS1 hotbits have the remote canister, but so you could avoid that problem with fouling on the swaybar. Imagine they are more expensive though?
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The Proflex evo2 I have are the same design as the Hotbits RSI (inverted), which means more friction between the tubes (same spring rates), I think they are perfect for rally but too harsh for a daily as they don't react on light corrugations, you feel like you're driving a go-kart…

Another reason I chose the DT2 is they give more stroke for the same compressed length.
 
How did you measure up for your Hotbits coilovers? If the current travel is limited by the shock you already have then how do you work out full extension? I suppose from there you just work out the differences to resting/ride height and the minimum full compressed length.
 
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I'll post some pics !

In a few words, the front struts housings are 37 cm long with tread on the whole length and the rod has 24 cm stroke. The springs front are 1x 250 60N/mm and 1x 230 70N/mm with a spacer between them. That gives 48 cm of springs with an average spring rate of 32,5 N/mm.

The rear struts housings are 44 cm long and the rod has 26 cm stroke. The springs are 2x 250 60N/mm with a spacer between them. That gives 50 cm of springs and a 30N/mm spring rate.

I then wind up the spring seats to the desired ride height. When at lowest, I have about 1" lift.
 
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