scooby's foz winch.

scooby

scooby

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I picked up and Engo 9000s w/ synthetic rope only weighs 60lbs

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I'm using a harborfreight universal winch plate to mount.

Now the bigger winch is going to draw more amps..
My solution is an Optima D35 yellow top inconjuction with a Tribeca 3.6l H6 130amp alternator..

I had good results with an ej22 fitted with an h6 3.0L 100amp alt. on my hatchie..just on extra rib on the pulley .

Now I'll have to get a snorkel as the airbox under the front bumper has to go...:lildevil:

Let the fab begin..

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Two 3/16" plates bolted to the bumper mounts as a start.
The lower tie bar with 2" box tubing welded to the tie down mounts.
I welded mount tabs for the skidplate as well.
The lower tie bar will be integrated into the bumper mounts vertically for four points. This will distribute the pulling force across as well as support the bumper/winch..

The grille will have to get a trim . This will allow for proper setback of the winch . In effect no loss of approach angle.
 
Looks like your off to a great start, 9000lb seems a bit big for a foz. its what we use on our cruisers here at work

keep us posted and don't for get the pics :)
 
By the sounds of it, you've got it all planned out scooby :ebiggrin:

I'll be closely watching the build & how it progresses :biggrin:

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
cost vs function

Brumby Boy said:
Looks like your off to a great start, 9000lb seems a bit big for a foz. its what we use on our cruisers here at work

keep us posted and don't for get the pics :)
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One of the reasons is cost.
For example a warn 4000lb winch is $396
The engo 9000 was only $409...!
Besides I'll need the extra pulling power for those jeeps..lol
 
Maybe start saving for a new foz when you rip off the front end while pulling those jeeps :iconwink: :raspberry: :lol:
I'm all for going hard offroad in a subie, but I don't exactly wanna kill it completely.
Great to see you giving it a shot though, looks good :twisted: Are you putting a bullbar or anything over it or is the stock bumper going back on?
 
You should be able to pull your foz up the side of a building with that winch.
 
Looking good :monkeydance:

So far I've counted 14 attachment points to the chassis, do you plan on adding any more? Ie, weld plate to the rail & drill/tap it?

What model Foz is it? I'll be watching as I need to do something similar for mounting my bullbar/recovery point/detachable winch...
 
First of all the winch mount itself has grade 5 bolts to break away before the bumper does..

As far a being too much winch ...What is too much ..? Every serious wheeler I see like suzuki, jeeps.. and other smaller rigs within the same weight class have 8,000lb minimum...

I had 3,500lb one on the hatchie hardly enough..needed the snatch block alot.. Fully loaded hatchie was 3,250lbs

Yes there will be a tube bumper fabbed from box tubing.. the plastic is garbage...and getting shredded anyway.

I don't plan on winching landcruisers anyway...or myself up a tree..unless there's a bear chasing me..!
 
for the skid plate mount, why not just cut out the lower rad support and weld in the square stock there as a replacement. instead of loosing all that approach angle by welding the square stock to the "tow points"?

im stoked to see this come together!!

-garrett
 
garrettG said:
for the skid plate mount, why not just cut out the lower rad support and weld in the square stock there as a replacement. instead of loosing all that approach angle by welding the square stock to the "tow points"?

im stoked to see this come together!!

-garrett
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One reason to weld in the box tubing at the tie down points is for header clearance(running a borla) . I have already custom cut the skidplate to fit a header.
Another reason is to leave it stock where I can If I sell it..This isn't a $500 car...

I'm actually gaining approach clearance when I cut the skid plate several inches off..
Notice the pic of the box tubing..and all that extra skidplate..
 
I don't think anyone is having a go at you for choosing a 9000lbs winch mate. It's just alot of winch.
 
Biesel said:
I don't think anyone is having a go at you for choosing a 9000lbs winch mate. It's just alot of winch.
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I think there is a lot of misconceptions about winch dynamics.
With the first wrap around the drum there would be 9000lbs.

So that's roughly 85 to 90ft spooled out.
At 20ft spooled out you'd have about 5600lbs of winch power..roughly..

As I expressed before what's a lot of winch...
I've been wheelin for many years with many different groups of enthusiasts.
8000lbs is pretty much standard for rigs 3000lbs to 5000lbs.

No offensive to anyone on here...just stating some basic facts.
 
And as i said no one is having a go at you mate so i don't know why you keep trying to justify it.
 
IMO, the bigger the winch the better if you can afford it. the only penalty is the weight, partly offset by the synthetic rope. It'll give you more in reserve if you need it, just be careful of deforming the front end, which in Subies isnt as strong as a Jeep, etc. But then again, we're lighter :iconwink:

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Just noticed the big bend in the lower rad support lol. Before you got the skid plate?

Can you bend the lip of the skid plate up so it doesnt catch on dirt/rocks? Mine does that a lot :(
 
NachaLuva said:
IMO, the bigger the winch the better if you can afford it. the only penalty is the weight, partly offset by the synthetic rope. It'll give you more in reserve if you need it, just be careful of deforming the front end, which in Subies isnt as strong as a Jeep, etc. But then again, we're lighter :iconwink:



Just noticed the big bend in the lower rad support lol. Before you got the skid plate?

Can you bend the lip of the skid plate up so it doesnt catch on dirt/rocks? Mine does that a lot :(
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The lower tie bar was damaged before I got it..then I hit the skidplate with a couple hard hits. The skidplate mounted directly to the lower tie bar...
Hence the new boxtubing under..

The skid plate end will get cut flush with a frontal bashplate mounted .
 
taza said:
Maybe start saving for a new foz when you rip off the front end while pulling those jeeps
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Everyone seems to be convinced that the front end of a Forester is not up to supporting winching force (I probably agree with this which is why i am planing to reinforce my frame significantly if i decide to mount a 9k on mine)
I do wonder though just how much force is applied to those front tie down points when we get snatched out after getting stuck in some thick mud? I guessing we probably dont really want to know....... but we use them and usually without a second thought.

Also the argument that you are more likely to damage your forester pulling out a heavier vehicle seems somewhat flawed to me because unless you are securing your tow bar to a tree or something you will just cause the forester to slide which will be less force than winching yourself out of a bog. Hell my 4k winch could make a forester slide easily on a sealed road.....

Keep posting your progress, im keen to see what the final product looks like :ebiggrin:
 
scooby said:
I think there is a lot of misconceptions about winch dynamics.
With the first wrap around the drum there would be 9000lbs.

So that's roughly 85 to 90ft spooled out.
At 20ft spooled out you'd have about 5600lbs of winch power..roughly..

As I expressed before what's a lot of winch...
I've been wheelin for many years with many different groups of enthusiasts.
8000lbs is pretty much standard for rigs 3000lbs to 5000lbs.

No offensive to anyone on here...just stating some basic facts.
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You are totally right!! On my Warn 9000I i usually only use the 3 or 4th layer... so its 7kish pull rating.
 
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