SF Foz Lift combo's???

Nachaluva: 2" lift spacers and raised HD king springs will result in more than 3" total lift in the rear (not good on cv's) unless u mean a std hight but HD spring if there is such a thing?

thanks for the other sugestions
 
Danboon23, If I were you I'd go with standard height (same as stock ) King Springs(yes they do exist) and 2" lift blocks all round. Don't bother with a body lift and stay with 215/70R15 tyres.
You don't need to upgrade swaybars, I have however and my car corners about 3x better than a stock Forester. I can tackle almost any corner flat out at upto the speedlimit :raspberry:

You can look over and drive my car if you want, when you get back. Go from there.

Ejipner said:
Taza, how did u accomplish 5in of lift? I have 2in spacers and was debating on going bigger.
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3" lift blocks in the rear with 1" RHD Springs, 2" lift blocks in the front with 1" RHD Springs and tyres which are 2.5" bigger in diameter (Just over 1" it lifts the car).

stilson said:
In the rear I think he has 65mm spacers, 35mm springs and an inch of tyre lift. The fronts a little lower.
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Yep that.

Nachaluva said:
I would stick with 15's...70 profile tyres "bag out" much better when airing down, giving better grip on sand, dirt, etc
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Yep good idea. I put on a set of stock Foz GT Alloys with stock size road tyres. I reckon my car is more than twice as fast. Hell do they make a big difference the big tyres. I think the weight more so than the larger rolling resistance has ****ed the performance of my car.

danboon23 said:
Nachaluva: 2" lift spacers and raised HD king springs will result in more than 3" total lift in the rear (not good on cv's) unless u mean a std hight but HD spring if there is such a thing?

thanks for the other sugestions
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See my above comment. Get standard height HD springs all round, I'd stay with SF struts too. If you stay with 215/70R15 tyres there on't be any issue with them rubbing on the struts.
 
Did anyone else put a rear SG drivetrain on an SF ?

That means 30 mm wider and less positive camber, more lateral room for the tyre...and its easy to fit :iconwink:
 
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Ok so I have a 2in lift spacers in now and I'm debating on getting saggy butt spacers 3/8, does anyone think stacking them will be a problem?
I am also installing iron man lift springs in the spring. I need new tires next.
 
Ejipner said:
Oh I was debating the saggy butt because she sags a little
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It looks ok, make sure you measure from the ground to the sills, the arches are different heights front to rear.

Ejipner said:
Ok so I have a 2in lift spacers in now and I'm debating on getting saggy butt spacers 3/8, does anyone think stacking them will be a problem?
I am also installing iron man lift springs in the spring. I need new tires next.
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Supposedly you're not meant to stack em but I will be. I have raised King springs & will be putting in a 2" body lift with 1" saggy butt spacers placed between the lift block & the strut. I already have camber bolts in the rear. I'd advise against aftermarket camber bolts in the front.

danboon23 said:
Nachaluva: 2" lift spacers and raised HD king springs will result in more than 3" total lift in the rear (not good on cv's) unless u mean a std hight but HD spring if there is such a thing?
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The angle on the rear CVs are much less than the front, so I believe 3" lift (rear) is ok. You shouldnt have a prob with 2" lift front.

Taza, what tyres are you running? Thats a BIG increase lol :lildevil:
 
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ok so i have a chance to get a full set of SG struts for about $200 less than the SF (that could pay for a snorkel).
i have decided to go with std size King springs with KYB struts front and rear.
i have read a heap of posts about using SG's on on an SF but there is a couple of things i want to confirm.

1- the King spring's catalog does not show a part number for STD size FRONT SG struts, what std size Kings are used on SG front struts?

2- as i understand it, if i use SG springs in the rear then i will need to change my tophats also.
Has anyone used std size SF king springs on SG struts Front and rear and if so how much lift did it provide?

3- apart from the tapered rear springs what is the difference between SF and SG springs?

i think to stay within the 2" strut lift i may have to make up some custom spacers around 1.5".
Taza do you still have the templates or measurments for your tophat spacers?
 
danboon23 said:
ok so i have a chance to get a full set of SG struts for about $200 less than the SF (that could pay for a snorkel).
i have decided to go with std size King springs with KYB struts front and rear.
i have read a heap of posts about using SG's on on an SF but there is a couple of things i want to confirm.

1- the King spring's catalog does not show a part number for STD size FRONT SG struts, what std size Kings are used on SG front struts?

2- as i understand it, if i use SG springs in the rear then i will need to change my tophats also.
Has anyone used std size SF king springs on SG struts Front and rear and if so how much lift did it provide?

3- apart from the tapered rear springs what is the difference between SF and SG springs?
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I put SG struts and springs in my SF i found that the SG rear springs where a little stiffer then SF springs
The only thing i had to do to my car to fit them in was hit the inner wall of the strut tower with a hammer as the springs where rubbing a little

Jan
 
without repeating previous answers to questions that seem to recur, I am concerned that this forum is turning to rubbish. e.g. the issue of SG struts in SF foz has been done over and over, but people who haven't actually done it seem to feel qualified to answer.

For the last ever time:

  • SG struts in rear of SF foz DOES work in allowing bigger tyres, no you don't have to change the top hats, keep the SF top hats.
  • there is no need to put SG struts in the front of an SF foz. why would you change if there is no reason?
  • A body lift makes a ****load of difference to things like CV angles, but it does not add to overall clearance.
Bloody hell: please use the search function, and it will help prevent this forum becoming worse than useless through the propagation of made up answers. Whatever happened to reading?


/end rant.
 
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Thanks yarney,
what was the end result in lift?
What springs did you use ; OE / kings?

Dulagarl; chill mate.
I know full well the subject has been covered in dozzens of posts as i have read them several times over as well as searching for product info without alot of succes. Sorry for bringing it up again but there was still a few things that were unclear and wanted confirmation on.
Im sure you can understand that it is best do do a job properly and do it once, no one would want to start pulling their car to bits only to find out one of the new parts doesnt fit.

there is no need to put SG struts in the front of an SF foz. why would you change if there is no reason?
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If i can get the same or similar result and save $200 is there any reason not too?

If anyone else can shed any more light on the questions in my previous post it would be very much appreciated.
 
Orrightey, I've made my decision...

a) 2" spacers all round + 3/8" saggy butt spacers in the back.
b) 1" trailing arm spacers.
c) Going up to 65 series tyres.

Can't wait.

Now it's just a case of finding the supplier with the best price.
 
Sounds great Tweaksta :)

Looking forward to see how it looks once you have it all installed :ebiggrin:

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
So I should be fine stacking a 1in saggy butt on top of my 2in spacers in the rear? I don't think I would have an issue but I want to know what others think.
 
I think the general consensus is that some people advise against it but quite a few people have already done it and have had no issues.

The more I think about it - with 3 strong bolts going through them I can't see it being a problem provided the bolts are tight.

It might be a challenge but you maybe could find an adhesive to sandwich them together and make them inseparable but HDPE is waxy so some research and some sanding of both surfaces may be necessary.

(EDIT: I've just done some research and 'JB Weld' adhesive sounds like a worthy contender).
 
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You would have to get longer studs on the top of the 2" spacer or longer on the top hat and put the saggy butt spacer under the lift block. I see no problem stacking lift blocks as long as one is hollow and the other is threaded.

Can you not just put 3" blocks in the rear? Or higher spring rates?
 
I'l be sandwiching Saggy Butt Spacers, 1" -Subtle Solutions between my top hat & 2" lift block from Crossbred Performance on the rear. Using high tensile bolts of correct length (the general rule is the bolt must extend past the nut by 1.5 times the nuts thickness), I cant foresee any prob. My biggest issue is the trailing arm spacers causing metal fatigue as they rock back & forth under stress from potholes, etc :(

Dulagarl's solution (welding reinforcing plates onto the chassis rails) is the perfect fix :lildevil:
 
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