Fire Extinguishers

Does the German Shepherd have an overwhelming desire to take over the Belgian Shepherd's territory, or do they co-exist nicely?
 
They co-exist very well together.
In saying that though, I must say that Springer (my German Shepherd) is the dominant one :bananagunner:

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
Some things never change!
 
Rally said:
Does the German Shepherd have an overwhelming desire to take over the Belgian Shepherd's territory, or do they co-exist nicely?
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Lol :lol:

Belgian Shepherds are beautiful dogs.

taza said:
Im guessing you don't have passengers in the rear then, would be more like a paddy wagon than car. haha
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Speaking from experience Taza? I've heard WA cops can be a bit full on lol :raspberry:
 
NachaLuva said:
1KG fire extinguishers on sale at SCA, $20 ea, save $18. On sale till 22/01
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Currently on sale again (same price). They have good metal nozzles too.

Here's mine freshly fitted in my shiny new MY13 Forester in front of the passenger seat. Please excuse the crappy iPhone snap. Next I'm off to sort out appropriate rubber mats (in the front, at least).
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The seat can slide all the way forward/back unimpeded. There's a lot more room here than on my old MY03 and MY06 cars (where the seat bolts were higher up, as well as being more vertical). That's a 25x3 mm aluminium bar running between the seat bolts, with the extinguisher bracket bolted to it.
 
sjm: nice. But there've been no such bracket in any of my Foresters.

For further clarification, here's an illustration of the clearance in my MY13 2.5i:
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That's with the seat slid fully back, but as you can see there's ample clearance to slide forward.
 
I see I did not post mine. Here is how I did it:

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Metal wall mount bolted to a right angle panel that is itself bolted to the seat frame. There are holes in the 2002 seats that are accessible when you untuck the seat cover and lift the cushion a bit.

Note that since that pic I rotated the extinguisher so the latch doesn't get so much in the way.
 
I am becoming more and more concerned about an engine fire with the leaking fuel rails under the inlet manifold! I've seen under bonnet fires and it writes the car off in seconds! Also you will get badly burnt if you try to put it out yourself so for me it's an auto or cable release remote piped foam canister install.

If it does catch fire the last thing I will be doing is lifting the bonnet to then get all burnt in the process! So I'm going to install an automatic extinguisher, remotely mounted but piped directly to the inlet manifold area.

The way I'm going to tackle it is similar to the thread below..

https://www.rvcruzer.com/firesystem.php

I've heard that dry chemical destroys all electricals and electronics it contacts so that's out and it leaves a massive mess that does not wash off!

I just want to hit an engine bay fire big time with an Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF). This is an agent that is mixed with water. When AFFF is sprayed through a nozzle it sprays out a foam blanket that prevents re-ignition, unlike plain water. It operates by removing heat from the fuel as well as by cooling it down.

I'm also going to have a manual pull cable release incase I detect a fire first and need immediate activation!

The great thing about it is that the install will not be externally visible and will deploy only when needed, automatically!

;)
 
Interesting read PigSti.

I'm wondering how much something like that costs ?
Perhaps I'm blind, but I couldn't seem to see a price though.

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
Pigs, get your bloody fuel leak/s fixed, mate!!

Then your other concern simply vanishes!

From my Batphone
 
Dry chem is reasonably safe, its mostly bicarb soda. If its a fuel related fire, no amount of dry chem you can realistically carry will put it out and you've also got the problem of what ever was hot enough to ignite the fuel is still hot enough to ignite the fuel (chem takes away the o2, breaking the chain reaction, hot leaky fuel ignites pretty much straight away when you stop). And Pigsti's concerns are kinda correct it is hard to clean off, but better than the alternatives unless your going to carry a big foam extinguisher

Carrying a small extinguisher is great but its crucial to get to what ever is burning quickly and put it out, once it's going you'll need the fire brigade. There's also the danger of opening a bonnet with a fire underneath flaring up, So be careful 30 seconds to put on a cotton/wool jumper and some gloves (leather, those plasticy mechanic gloves burn really nicely) if you got em is better than the rest of your life with burn scars everywhere.(most of the fires air will be coming from under the car either way).

Also about once a year take out your extinguisher to check its still charged, then tap it on the ground a few times and check it again. the chem cakes up almost solid after time and becomes useless.

I usually carry a little 4.5kg dry chem, but i got it surplus, smaller one would take less space.
 
When I was at uni they had this famous physics lecturer and I snuck into a lecture on Black Holes. To my surprise the fire department walked after 10 minutes and said that this lecture had been randomly selected to undertake a fire safety course for the next 2 hours!

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In that time each person was to be instructed on all common actual fires and how best to extinguish them with the commonly available extinguishers. Each person tackled actual fires lit in tubs with each type of extinguisher with an instructor at hand!

It was the best lecture I have ever attended and the most memorable! Every one should do a course like this..

;)
 
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