Sick of bloody torn CV Boots - Double boot system?

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paffoh

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Ok, well I have had it with tearing CV boots...

Been through too many as far as I am concerned and each one results in something damaging to my car. This time my car is shaking badly and as its a possible symptom of a torn boot im stopping the rot for good...

I know most of us have seen these but for those that havent the Kartek Leather Outer Boot Double System is basically a durable leather CV boots which are designed to be used as the outer CV boot for double boot setups. Leather boots offer extra protection from debris such as brushes and dirt and protects the inner boot which seals the CVs.

https://www.kartek.com/Product/DriveTrain/CV/Boots/CVLeather.html

As these Kartek double boots come in different sizes Im having problems finding out the following, the forester axle thickness and the flange size diameter (Whatever that means). The choice comes down to 4 1/2" Flange diameter or 5 1/2", coupled with axle thickness of 1" or 1 1/4".

Who knows these may be too big anyway but im keen to end this crap, this is one ongoing problem that will make me sell the foz if I cant rectify this.
 
I must say that since buying a CV boot strap tool I've not had an issue with tearing CV boots, got it on ebay too:

something like this.

Cheers

Bennie
 
I think Bennie is disappointed he's not had a chance to use the tool! :ebiggrin:
 
d_generate said:
How does that stop rubber tearing?
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It allows you to place both steel rings on the boot without twisting the boot when placing the second ring on as you tighten it...

Kevin said:
I think Bennie is disappointed he's not had a chance to use the tool! :ebiggrin:
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I've used it on four boots so far... and I've just found a boot on the brumby that needs some attention so that'll make 3 - I'm actually looking forward to it!

Cheers

Bennie
 
Wow, I really need to learn how to count late at night!

Kevin, I think it was more like a booty "find"... The only call I got was when I noticed the CV grease with that usual spray pattern in the engine bay :(

Cheers

Bennie
 
Interesting tool... But I'm tearing boots whilst driving, not replacing.

Well my car cane back from subaru today... Fixed.
The torn boot had caused access for water ingestion and the CV was binding, causing the car to shake wildly. Whole new CV driveline right side only came in at $350 + service so was happy. Haven't had a subaru dealer service for awhile, must admit they did a good job... I digress.

I'm tearing boots far too often and can only assume steering full lock is to blame, along with sticks and the like. Haven't had a chance to sort size yet but will get under the car on Saturday and do some measuring. If by the time I notice a torn boot it's going to cost me $350 (both sides Cv driveshafts have been replaced in last 12 months) then I'm definately sourcing some of these covers...

Only consideration will be heat resistance, right above heat shields on unequal length headers.
 
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paffoh said:
Whole new CV driveline right side only came in at $350 + service so was happy.
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That price sounds a little high to me :confused:
I've just had mine done (drivers side) about a week or so ago at my local Subi Dealer / Service Center & it cost me $295 supply & fit a whole new CV Driveshaft

I know what you mean by price though. I've also done two in the past 12-15mths aswell :o

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
mr turbo said:
That price sounds a little high to me :confused:
I've just had mine done (drivers side) about a week or so ago at my local Subi Dealer / Service Center & it cost me $295 supply & fit a whole new CV Driveshaft

I know what you mean by price though. I've also done two in the past 12-15mths aswell :o

Regards
Mr Turbo
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Just read reciept, $317.18 (labour probably more expensive).

Most things cost more in Canberra, that is a given.
 
To be honest I didn't bother asking...

Last one was definately not OEM and due to vehicle mods was void of warranty (luckily this is not the one that was replaced). I'm guessing at that price it's not OEM either as the last mechanic I went to mentioned OEM was $1200 fitted (needless to say after asking questions on here I went aftermarket).

Any idea what brand Turbo?
 
I'm not exactly sure of the exact one, but rest assured, it is the thicker heavier one :iconwink:

They know my Forry well :lol: & what I put it through :lildevil:
Any time I turn up there now, they just say "oh :censored: what have you broken this time" :poke:

I made sure & told them, in no uncertain terms, not to use the cheap, crappy, piss weak imported one(s)
And they also know me well enough not to ............ or else !! :twisted:

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
I think its unlikely sticks are constantly tearing your cv boots. Its more likely to be the incorrect boot, poor quality boot, incorrectly installed or something along those lines. I had my old mechanic fit 3 boots over a period of 3 months and each one tore after only a few weeks. It was pissing me off and i ended up leaving them and that resulted in the CV joints wearing out... really annoying. I went with brand new shafts for the front and secondhand OEM shafts (for the rear) in the end and they're showing no signs of wearing out CV boots out after many months now, including offroad abuse. If its not sticks tearing your boots then covering it with a second boot won't do anything to prevent premature wearing, but it will mask it.
 
The reason I mentioned sticks is the tears seem to be at the bottom. Don't get me wrong it's probably 6 boots all up since 60,000km ( now 180,000k ) but tgree of them have been more recent. My car is pretty bulletproof and amoured to the nines so these little pissy things are just a little frustrating.

The whole purpose of double booting is to prolong uncontaminated grease should a tear occur (shielding direct water and dirt). Obviously a boot would be replaced when found to be split (by checking every once in a while) but if I'm on a 2 week holiday bush bashing around with friends and family I could sure do with the extra protection.

Thanks for your insight regarding boot wear. I have just changed mechanics too so I'm hoping the issues disappear completely. Time will tell, but I will always be more cautious when doing u turns and anything involving a close to full lock turn with a 2.5" lift alround.
 
Found a solution for the ripping CV boots. There was a thread over on AuSubaru.

Davidov on here has his front boots rip after 2 weeks of having a 3" strut lift put in. Ended up going o a CV joint place but instead of getting normal Subaru boots.
He got boots that are designed for a lifted Toyota Hilux. They are thicker and longer than standard boots, especially for a Subaru, thus making them more heavy duty.

Cost about $250 for the two front inner boots and fitted. Now another 2 guys on AuSubaru have gone to the same place and are getting the same boots put on.

I think this type of boot could me more suited to people who have exteme angles on their Subies.

taza
 
I like that idea taza. I just got 2004 sti front axles and they have a larger inner boot that even allows for steeper angles. they bolt right in! any they have a larger diameter axle rod
 
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