Subaru (R160 diff) Rear Locker project

Its a nissan diff, 300zx and some IRS nissan 4WDs. Couldn't find out specifically what 4WD though.
 
Venom said:
R230 Diff in a Gen3 Liberty rear subframe. There is an ARB locker available for the IRS R230 diff.
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ARB are bringing out a locker for the R180 diff this year...can they be swapped in?

El_Freddo said:
And personally I would buy an ARB locker - they're not called "air leakers" for nothing, plus to save on money (read keep profit up) parts are now plastic such as the piston that moves to engage the locker!
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Did you mean NOT buy an ARB locker?

Yeah I've heard its not just the plastic but also the quality of some of the steel parts isnt up to par any more. Shame as even though they are ridiculously expensive, they USED to be bullet proof :(

I'm still keen to see the R160 manual locker become a reality... Just have to be patient I reckon!
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Yep me too :biggrin:
 
R180 is piece of piss because its factory fitted to the later STI's. You need to swap out the rear hubs, get matching driveshafts and possible change the driveshaft as well. Nothing custom to make it fit though! Well except maybe the disc rotors, those STI's have a 5x114.3 i think.
 
Venom said:
R180 is piece of piss because its factory fitted to the later STI's. You need to swap out the rear hubs, get matching driveshafts and possible change the driveshaft as well. Nothing custom to make it fit though! Well except maybe the disc rotors, those STI's have a 5x114.3 i think.
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Well THAT is interesting! :lildevil:

ARB may no longer be 'bullet proof', but I'd think it should be up to anything I'd be likely to throw at it.
 
Nachaluva said:
ARB are bringing out a locker for the R180 diff this year...can they be swapped in?
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Are you sure about this? The R180 has been listed on their catalogue for a number of years now but when you contact them they say they're not making them anymore... Maybe the new Navara is the reason for this - they've got an R180 rear diff in them, but it's a solid axle construction, just the internals swap over. Apparently they have a factory locker option... Just need the R180 case then.

As for shafts and hubs etc, I don't think it would be difficult to custom make some output shafts to fit to what we've already got :twisted:

Nachaluva said:
Did you mean NOT buy an ARB locker?
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Sorry! Yes that's what I meant. Edited now ;)

Nachaluva said:
Yeah I've heard its not just the plastic but also the quality of some of the steel parts isnt up to par any more. Shame as even though they are ridiculously expensive, they USED to be bullet proof :(
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Yep. TJM and a few other companies are building stuff that's better these days from what I've heard. But that's all on the grapevine...

Venom said:
R180 is piece of piss because its factory fitted to the later STI's. You need to swap out the rear hubs, get matching driveshafts and possible change the driveshaft as well. Nothing custom to make it fit though! Well except maybe the disc rotors, those STI's have a 5x114.3 i think.
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Yeah as mentioned above, I've thought about doing it in the L series with custom output shafts on the diff to match my stock drive shafts, but ARB weren't producing the R180 locker so I didn't take it any further.

Cheers

Bennie
 
Barry said:
Sounds good, although the plate type need on-going adjustment, iirc.

Still, much better than standard!
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Hi Barry, I have a 1.5 way cusco plated rear lsd in my 2004 forester x manual. I have now done 100 000 k with it now and no adjustedment has been required. It still works as good as new. Oil changes are exactly the same as with a regular diff, and also contrary to popular belief it does work when one wheel is in the air. I personaly think this is a better option to a locker. The lockers aren't very nice to drive on normal roads with.
 
scaddanr said:
Hi Barry, I have a 1.5 way cusco plated rear lsd in my 2004 forester x manual. I have now done 100 000 k with it now and no adjustedment has been required. It still works as good as new. Oil changes are exactly the same as with a regular diff, and also contrary to popular belief it does work when one wheel is in the air. I personaly think this is a better option to a locker. The lockers aren't very nice to drive on normal roads with.
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Thats interesting, I had heard that 1.5 and 2 way LSDs were not suitable.
 
scaddanr said:
Hi Barry, I have a 1.5 way cusco plated rear lsd in my 2004 forester x manual. I have now done 100 000 k with it now and no adjustedment has been required. It still works as good as new. Oil changes are exactly the same as with a regular diff, and also contrary to popular belief it does work when one wheel is in the air. I personaly think this is a better option to a locker. The lockers aren't very nice to drive on normal roads with.
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i am not sure how having a locker wouldnt be nice for driving on normal roads? because it is going to be a manually engaged locker, during normal driving situations the locker would not be compensating anything (in theory)

-garrett
 
I've driven a 6cyl Datsun with a welded diff... it wasn't too bad, but I wouldn't like it to be permanently like that plus it would be killer on your tyres, handles nicely in a slide though, my goodness the trouble a locked rear can get you out of, even ON road!
 
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garrettG said:
i am not sure how having a locker wouldnt be nice for driving on normal roads? because it is going to be a manually engaged locker, during normal driving situations the locker would not be compensating anything (in theory)
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That's the idea Garrett. If you have an auto locker it will work when it sees fit to do so, and it may cause unnecessary strain on your drive train - some think it might also screw up your centre diff in the long run. It certainly would not be welcome in the back of my AWD!

Species said:
I've driven a 6cyl Datsun with a welded diff... it wasn't too bad, but I wouldn't like it to be permanently like that plus it would be killer on your tyres, handles nicely in a slide though, my goodness the trouble a locked rear can get you out of, even ON road!
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You should try out an L series with a welded rear end! Be ware though, it will get you into trouble if you're not careful - "point and shoot" is the way it worked for me!

Greg, yeah that could be good, but trying to find one is near impossible, it could be a while before you find one but that's the trick - keep looking!

Cheers

Bennie
 
Species said:
I've driven a 6cyl Datsun with a welded diff... it wasn't too bad, but I wouldn't like it to be permanently like that plus it would be killer on your tyres, handles nicely in a slide though, my goodness the trouble a locked rear can get you out of, even ON road!
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Nice, I have a Datsun 1600 with a locked R160 and it is fantastic unless I have to push it around a corner witch is to often theses days.

I certainly wouldn't like to connect it to the AWD in the Subaru full time however.
 
Well while I've been home I have found some time to work on this. I think I am close to getting a prototype made up. Should get it finished during uni break.
I have the switch and cable sorted out. The design is pretty much complete and relatively simple.
 
thunder039 said:
are you installing the locker in the diff yourself?
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Yes with the help of a mate who knows what he is doing :lol: :iconwink:

It probably won't be in my Forester, more likely an L-Series or something with a lockable centre. It will certainly get a hard time offroad, just hope it doesn't bust a diff or CV. But that's another problem to look at if the time comes.
 
taza said:
Yes with the help of a mate who knows what he is doing :lol: :iconwink:

It probably won't be in my Forester, more likely an L-Series or something with a lockable centre. It will certainly get a hard time offroad, just hope it doesn't bust a diff or CV. But that's another problem to look at if the time comes.
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so is this going in your l series?
 
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