Best way to recover a 15 Outback

chaddie

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2015
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Outback
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Hello, I'm planning an off road beach trip this summer and have been reading up on vehicle recovery, my question is about what points to use for mounting a snatch strap, it has a towing eyelet that can be screwed into the front and rear is this sufficient? If not is there any good way to recover my car? Thanks for your help!
 
G'day & Welcome aboard chaddie! For reasonably steady recoveries on a flat beach it will be fine. For our vehicles it's generally more of a "tow" than a full on "snatch". Remember these points are also used for winching cars up onto flatbeds and those trays can be fairly steep. If a larger 4WD is pulling you out, tell them to take it easy.
 
Thanks for the reply, I really love this site it seems like everybody is super friendly and helpful, I already have the ORS big stick on my rear window:ebiggrin:. It's my plan to fix up the car as my budget allows and do some more extensive off roading. If I were to get stuck in say mud or something requiring more force to extract what would be recommended for recovery in that situation? As far as straps go I was looking at a TMJ 6,000kg strap is that a good one?what size shackles would be best and do you have a brand recommendation?

Also I'd like to get everyone's input on what modifications are most important so I can put my money where it will be best served... What section should I post that question to. (Sorry for asking such a newbie question like that but I'm super inexperienced with the whole online forum thing.):confused:
 
Yes yes, couldn't agree more! I'm still trying to gauge how much gear I really need don't want to be over prepared or under prepared. Lol.

I made some DIY shovel and axe mounts for my roof basket with
quickfist clamps and some stainless hose ties they work really well I can carry a full sized shovel with no problems. I could post some pics if anyone is interested... Have you found any type of shovel head to be more or less useful? I have a square head one and was wondering if a spade would be better?
 
Gidday Chaddie

There should also be a recovery bolt screw-in point on the rear of your Outback. There is one at each end of our SH Forester :iconwink:.
 
Gidday Chaddie

There should also be a recovery bolt screw-in point on the rear of your Outback. There is one at each end of our SH Forester :iconwink:.

What's your experience using the bolt have you done any snatching from mud? Should I worry about misshaping the unibody since I can't use a distribution strap? Where should I post to get advice on what's the most recommended mods for off roading subies :)
 
A round or pointy headed shovel works for me, easier to dig holes in harder spots if you need to. Long handle makes it easier still.

Thanks ateday, that makes perfect sense! I'll get one straight away!
 
One other thing to note is that this will be a solo trip it's not extremely remote so there should be other cars around but I'd rather not be dependent on some one helping me if I do get bogged.. If you could take only one piece of self recovery gear what would it be. besides a shovel of course ;)
 
The manual of my 2013 avoids the word recovery but does speak of getting unstuck from snow, mud, or sand by using the tow hook. It is not just for towing. That said, I assume that the eye of the tow hook is the weakest link. I hope that it will break before any damage to bumper, let alone car occurs. Of course, I do not really know.

Second, it is not easy to get stuck in a Subie with the traction control/VDC OFF, if one is driving carefully and has checked the terrain ahead when in doubt. If "playing," sure, one can get stuck. I'd have to think that a light recovery in a VDC Subaru with proper tires would be a very rare occurrence. Personally, I would expect to either get out on my own or need an actual recovery.

I carry a shovel and TRED 1100 which are like Maxtraxx but FIT BEHIND the rear wheel wells! The 1100 is the right size. It is much cheaper as well, I got mine on sale for 105 on ebay, it is usually 180-210.

If the above happens to be insufficient, I have now an air (exhaust) jack, but this awkward device is tricky. If you have skid plates, it can be used under the proper front jacking point, with the rest of the bag spilling over the front and mid plates. This worked well for me during tests at home. However, lifting in the rear with this would be a nightmare. I tried by the spare wheel well, which caved in (pushed it out with bare hands). Lifting by the rear diff would be a very difficult operation due to the proximity of the exhaust and other parts.

Finally, I purchased a 2 3/8x30 ARB recovery strap rated at 17,600 lb. While this is likely too much for a Subie, the lowest rated quality strap I found, here in the US, is the WARN at 14,400. I just liked the ARB better. If the WARN were cheaper, would have taken that.

Back to my early point: because I expect the eye of the tow hook to be the weakest link, I do NOT want metal shackles. I bought Bubba rope shackles, which cost 86 (pair) instead of 25 (pair) BUT no metal shackle would be flying around if the tow hook's eye brakes.

Again, this is all from reading this forum and many others. I have not been stuck yet in the sense of being unable to get out on my own power without even using shovel. But, I travel solo with my kids and I take no chances: I walk through stuff and take the easiest legal line, I do not "play."
 
I bought Bubba rope shackles, which cost 86 (pair) instead of 25 (pair) BUT no metal shackle would be flying around if the tow hook's eye brakes.

Fantastic idea.... I didn't realise someone had finally twigged to using soft eye shackles in 4wd applications. As you say, the biggest risk when snatching goes wrong is flying metal pieces.

For future reference, these are very easy to make with a length of spectra/dyneema (8mm diameter is probably appropriate, ~6T breaking strength, can be had for less than $6/m).

Look up "soft shackle": here's a good DIY
 
What's your experience using the bolt have you done any snatching from mud? Should I worry about misshaping the unibody since I can't use a distribution strap? Where should I post to get advice on what's the most recommended mods for off roading subies :)

Nah, mate. The SH is SWMBO's. Closest it will get to any off road stuff is pulling over onto the verge!

I have a load distribution strap, snatch, creeper winch, etc for my SG.
 
Man you guys have awesome ideas. I really like the soft shackle idea. My question is how do you attach those diy ones you mentioned to the snatch strap and eyelet? Also about the maxtrax has anyone used waffle boards for recovery? They seem like the would be handy for traction as well as bridging and using as a ramp might help get over a ledge that my approach angle wouldn't usally allow... What are your ideas about them any good? Like these https://www.okoffroad.com/stuff-waffleboards.htm
 
Hello waffle boards!

You know, I have been thinking exactly the same for a year! Bridging and approach angle issues. Now we are talking.


The problem is weight and space. Do you have kids? If not, what are you waiting for! LOL. I have barely room for the TREd 1100 amd thw boards are 48" which means they only fit in one small section of the cargo area.

I should have bought two pairs of TRED 1100. Stacked together, in pairs, they should be able to serve me well as ramps when really necessary while providing traction on all four in bad situations, minimizing the chance I need to be pulled. I MUST WARN that the TRED is NOT meant to serve as a bridging device. But I have seen youtube videos of heavy rigs using it even though it is destroyed at rhe end.

As for soft shackles, I would not save money on recovery equipment. Get the Bubba rope. You owe that to your nice new ride!

Best of luck to you in your learning process!
 
Haha yeah no kids but I do have a dog who thinks she owns the backseat. Lol as for the size I'm thinking I may be able to strap them to my roof basket with the spare tire gonna do some measuring to be sure. Apparently people use them as sand ladders as well as mud traction aids I'm asuming they work like the milk crate traction things I saw on here they. are very popular with the Land Rover crowd it seems. Also those soft shackles look like the ticket it will nice not to worry about getting killed by flying metal.:surprised: I'll let you know how the boards work if I end up getting them.
 
Also thank you all for your input I really appreciate it. I was starting to feel lost in all the info I'm gonna try and start a thread about my car and learning to drive off road some time soon. Hope to hear from you all there as well I can definitely use all the help I can get!! it's nice to see there are others who like subies as much as I do, because most off roaders in my area are jeepers with 5" lifts and 40" tires who will probably just laugh at my little Outback. Lol
 
Yes yes, couldn't agree more! I'm still trying to gauge how much gear I really need don't want to be over prepared or under prepared

Shovel and bowsaw, plus some time will get you out of most situations. If you got in forwards, good chance you ca get out backwards. A lot of people forget this second bit. You can carry almost everything or very little, theres a thread in ors recovery section listing what people usually take and sometimes what car they have.

Unless your stuck above your doors, a friend with a big 4x4 can almost all of the time tow you out slowly, as Kevin says don't go for a full on snatch. The screw in point is rated to tow you out so that's the best bet, backwards by the towbar is usually even better.

As with anything look at the situation and identify anything that's going to be a problem, ie: where are you getting out to, whats going to get stuck, is there a straight line to pull me out from, is everyone around safe, has something changed since i last checked. Dig our or track build around anything thats going to snag cv's, hubs,wheel,sway links,struts, brake lines etc, sag one of these and pull the weight of the car against it it will bend or break.

Your a lucky man, my dog thins he owns the passenger seat to the point its better off people sit in the back when hes in the car.


Waffleboard ramps, look for a scaff or industrial supplier, its used for walkways and is about half the price for a 1x1 square. Also if you get any use gloves the fiberglass comes off sometimes.
 
Man you guys have awesome ideas. I really like the soft shackle idea. My question is how do you attach those diy ones you mentioned to the snatch strap and eyelet?

Just like the pictures on the bubba site:

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As for soft shackles, I would not save money on recovery equipment. Get the Bubba rope. You owe that to your nice new ride!

The bubba soft shackles are the same design as the DIY option, except they've used a different stopper knot (maybe a monkey's fist rather than a diamond knot) and added a bit of heat-shrink. They even spec the rope size (7/6" = 11mm) - so I'd go for that when buying spectra/dyneema..

If you look at that link I posted above, they've even borrowed the Better soft shackle design, which is easier to open.

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I haven't used these in 4wd applications, but I have quite alot of experience using them in highly loaded applications on boats, and they work extremely well. The only caution is to watch out for sharp edges at your tow ring.

DIY, or purchased, soft shackles typically have 170% of rated line strength. that's ~20T for 11mm dyneema (BS of ~11.7T)
 
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