EE20 Conversion?

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hydrowill

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Has anyone thought about putting EE20 is to an early model suby??

Would be so cool, seems like we are getting our drive-trains under control with some really good results. Imagine being coupled to a grunty turbo diesel.
 
Yeah I've thought aboit it however im not sure if you could mate an EJ dual range box upto it. Even then the ratios would need to be highly modified to suit the torque and power curve of that motor.

Could be done though. Anything can be done with enough time and money.
 
I agree, Taza. Good answer ... :) :cool:.

Given enough time and money, almost anything can be done.
Whether it's worth it or not is a matter for personal choice.
 
I'd consider the conversion but I'd imagine it'd cost atleast double of what my foz is worth.

While alot of people are not fans of modern diesel engines, I am. I like the low end torquey turbo diesel power band combine with the good towing capacity and the excellent fuel economy.

Keen to see someone do the swap!
 
I love modern diesels but I'm not sure Subaru have sorted out theirs yet. Plus the way they have treated customers with problems with their diesel, esp DPF, has been very poor.

It would be pretty good though, awesome low down torque & you could use the EE20 gearbox & set up the diffs so 1st is equivalent to a 1st LR 1.59:1 in a DR box :lildevil:
 
Not yet, just going by the volume of complaints on threads like the DPF thread. Lots of very unhappy diesel owners. Interesting how Subaru now recommend diesels only for rural use, not urban. Also how they recommend the 6th gear in a diesel to only be used over 120kmh! really!? Our national speed limit is less than that!
 
Well dont be hard to drive. Go take a new SJ diesel manual for a 30min test drive and see what you think.
Having driven every new subaru on the current line up range I'd say the one I was least impressed with was the new WRX!
There are plenty of complaints and problems with SF, SG's, Outbacks, Libs, Tribeca's, etc. .... it's just that most of us are so blinded, focused and obsessed with them we don't even recognize these.

All cars have their faults. Just because 5 or 6 people out of thousands are having problems with yhe DPF doesn't mean that they are rubbish. Subaru came to the party with this problem and resolved it. Plus you have to expect problems with their first diesel engine that's been put into production. Unlike with their petrol engines that they have been designing and producing for over 45 years.
 
^ I agree, Taza.

A very sensible insight into mechanical stuff in general, and all cars in particular.

None of them are "perfect", whatever that is, or means ... :iconwink: :lol:.
 
OK, you've convinced me to do some test drives lol :monkeydance:

taza said:
Plus you have to expect problems with their first diesel engine that's been put into production. Unlike with their petrol engines that they have been designing and producing for over 45 years.
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Thats exactly my point, its the first ever boxer diesel by any manufacturer & they had/have some very unique issues to overcome. I think they still have a ways to go to get the same reliability as from the proven petrol boxer.

But when they get these issues sorted out, they'll have a great performer with huge low down torque & great economy :biggrin:
 
I really is a shame though they decided to discontinue the dual range box with the diesel :( Would have considered one as a next car!
 
I mean the discontinued the dual range box all together. Not that it was ever a model. Lol
 
hydrowill said:
Has anyone thought about putting EE20 is to an early model suby??

Would be so cool, seems like we are getting our drive-trains under control with some really good results. Imagine being coupled to a grunty turbo diesel.
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It would be cool... Check out youtube, there are plenty of videos of Kombi's etc that are running the subi diesels on an after market computer system.

The issue is that the factory wiring has gone to a BCM setup - Body control module. If you don't know much about them, this computer system has everything talk to each other - so it's not as simple as just cutting out the engine wiring these days.

The aftermarket computer system I mentioned above unfortunately cuts out all the anti pollution stuff - so it'd never pass a conversion in Australia as all the anti pollution gear needs to be installed in the older vehicle.

A diesel L series would be awesome though!

taza said:
Yeah I've thought aboit it however im not sure if you could mate an EJ dual range box upto it. Even then the ratios would need to be highly modified to suit the torque and power curve of that motor.

Could be done though. Anything can be done with enough time and money.
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Umm... this coming from the guy that put an EJ25 in-front of an EJ20 gearbox?? :poke:

Seriously, the torque curve of this engine would be sweet in front of just about any subaru gearbox. Plus diesels these days are built to behave more like a petrol engine - they even run hotter for emissions reasons which could in turn be part of their problem with how it runs...

hydrowill said:
I really is a shame though they decided to discontinue the dual range box with the diesel :( Would have considered one as a next car!
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I reckon the old dual range setup wouldn't be suitable if you didn't drive it right - certainly joe blog would blow it up in no time IMO. This is why I reckon the EJ22 and EJ25 have the 1.19:1 low range - it's just there to keep the production running and to have it as a bit of a selling point in those countries where snow etc makes it worthwhile having a low range for better control...

I'd like to give it ago, but I'm not packing any money bags at the moment so it won't be me doing it :(

Cheers

Bennie
 
Tick in the too hard box by the sounds of it. Ah well, I would probably miss the 6cyl anyway :P
 
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