getting ready to buy a subaru and i got some questions

shotgun willie

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Tampa, Florida
Car Year
2000
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Forester
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auto
I am looking at buying a subaru forester or Outback. I am replacing my pickup truck because as a poor college student I just can't afford to put gas in it anymore. I have settled on the subarus because of the fuel efficiency and I like the idea of getting to do some offroading. My first question is what is the best bet, going with the forester or the outback. I have been leaning towards the forester but i have been reading about the head gasket issues in the 2.5 engines and was wondering what y'all could tell me about that. Also what is the availability of lift kits and other offroad accessories for subarus in the States.
Let me know what y'all think.
Thanks.
 
G'day and welcome to ORS.

I don't know much about the head gasket issues but believe it is a problem on early 2.5.

I like the Foz better than the ob because it has better a,d&ro angles and a tighter turning circle. but if you need the extra room?

I know subtle do 1" lift kits and take a look at Jackson rally.

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine.
 
Welcome SW! ^ what he said!

Head Gasket issues were around the 2001-2002 2.5 models. Without modifications, the Foz will be better as the OB has longer overhang front & rear.

Good luck with your purchase!
 
I've been leaning towards the forester based on what I was reading here but because I'm buying used and on a budget I might just settle for the best deal I can find. Also due to my budget, the vehicles I was looking at were in the 2000-2005 range. What kind of thing should I look for in regards to the head gaskets and how much would repair or replacement of them cost?
 
I've been leaning towards the forester based on what I was reading here but because I'm buying used and on a budget I might just settle for the best deal I can find. Also due to my budget, the vehicles I was looking at were in the 2000-2005 range.

Go for the newest, cleanest car you can afford with the best service history. Kind of a generic rule of thumb in buying anything, but it definitely applies here.

What kind of thing should I look for in regards to the head gaskets and how much would repair or replacement of them cost?
Expect head gasket replacement to typically run $1500-$2000 depending on where you have it done and what else you do at the same time. If you're tearing down the engine to the point where you're replacing the head gaskets, you may as well also replace the timing belt, tensioners, and water pump since you'll have access to them as well. The EJ25 is an interference engine, so if the timing belt goes pistons will eat valves.

Use OEM headgaskets. They were redesigned somewhere in the 2008 timeframe to mitigate the weep issues they had up to around that point, and some of the aftermarket ones don't quite match up. If you're going to be in the job for the amount of money you're potentially looking at, it doesn't make sense to save $30-$50 on the aftermarket parts only to have to tear it all down again in a couple of years for the same reason as the first time.

Lift options are somewhat limited for these vehicles, and don't expect to go much over 2" without starting to stress the CV joints. Not many options for regearing, either, so with larger tyres performance and fuel economy will be affected.

The usual lift methods are spacers on the strut tops, lifted springs, or a combination of the two. Check the Suspension and Handling forum for some ideas as to how to do this; if you've any specific questions, bring them back here and we'll do what we can to help.
 
Gidday SW

Welcome to ORS, mate.:welcome:.

I agree with Kevin. That is my understanding of the head gasket problem also, that Subaru rectified this in 2002~2003, and fixed most or all cars with the problem under warranty.

Casm also has some good advice about general s/h car buying 'rules'.

I bought Roo2 in December last year, and applied all the criteria he mentioned; plus a few others. I have been grovelling under cars since I was about 15 y.o., so for nearly 50 years. Fortunately, one seems to do less grovelling under Subarus than one does with most other makes, IME ...

Good hunting. I would also go for the Forester (I did ... ) unless you have family to transport. Rear leg room can be tight for a car full of big/tall people ...
 
Outback for more room or the Forester for more ability. My '99 2.5 S is running strong with 171000 miles with never having head gaskett issues. Even mine being 13yrs old, i have most all the ammenities of a new one. Heated leather seats (still look new), heated mirrors, stock 6 cd changer that works great & complete with a snow blade fitted stock on the wipers ;) - not that you'll have to worry bout that in Tampa!
 
Get a proper pre-purchase inspection done before hand to determine the extent- if any- of any problems. The body is more important than the engine, so be sure of it's history. If it's just a weep- no worries but anything dripping- look elsewhere. I have an MY04 which weeps a little- but it's fine and been like that for ages. With a good set of tyres it will do some amazing things for what it is, but if going off road- get a sump guard.
 
G'day shotgun willie & :welcome: to ORS.

Looks like most of your questions would've been answered so far.
I suppose it really comes down to what your budget is :)

The Forry has better approach & departure angles.
The OB has better rear leg room (from what I've been led to believe)

Go for the newest, cleanest car you can afford with the best service history. Kind of a generic rule of thumb in buying anything, but it definitely applies here.
I think the above quote nails it :iconwink:

And I agreed totally. Check the service history, thats a must :cool:


Regards
Mr Turbo
 
thanks for the help guys. Ill continue to look though craigslist and ebay motors for the perfect car, but ill definitely go ahead and post on here again when i get a hold of my first subaru.
 
You've had some good advice on here so I dont need to add to it...but go the Foz lol (I'm biased haha) :iconwink:
 
Outback has superior room (more leg room and significantly larger boot space) comfort and onroad handling.

Forester has superior offroad ability and more offroad modification options. Also its smaller size may be more of a benefit than a downfall as sometimes i consider my outback to be a pain in the a$$ to manouver through small carparks and to try and park the darn thing.
 
I also meant to add that the Forester has a better ramp over than the OB aswell :iconwink:

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
my car is burning smoke on passenger side due to something , a seal, or gasket. just to let you know, it is something Ive heard others having as well. Nontheless, I really like my forester.
 
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