I've heard similar things too.Ive used Dueler A/T 693 and know many vehicles with them on. They are ok, but not great in mud ......
Try this thread, there's heaps of info on what others are using & also what they think of them :iconwink:If you look at the tyre thread on here that will give on an idea of what people are running and how they perform.
I still think there is better out there.
I hear good things from the tyre shop about the toyo open country AT and the general grabber AT2
I hate Crapstone with a passion!
Also, I'd be careful comparing what the big 3ton 4WDs use...we have different requirements. If you want your Subie to still handle like a Subie, go for a tyre that has decent grip onroad with offroad capability.
Also, what are your requirements? 99% onroad with occasional offroad trips? Gravel, sand or serious tracks with rocks/mud? If you're after something with good onroad grip but dont do seriously difficult tracks, then I find it hard to go past the Geolanders :iconwink:
There's a couple of cars in the club running them (and their previous versions) and they luv 'em.
I have them and absolutely love them! Think I've had them on for just under 30,000kms and haven't noticed much wear. Just a little on the sides which I think could be due to alignment.
Have used them in many situations and they haven't let me down yet! Been on a couple serious mud 4WD tracks and they got me through with ease as long as I avoided getting stuck in the ruts. I found a real muddy/rutted track in Esperance which I just had to have a crack at! Got through with no worries. I was going at a good pace, sometimes a little too much accelerator and the tyres would slip but would then ease off and they would gain traction again immediately (and that was with 35 psi haha). Made it through the first time and then decided to have another crack at it but was going to slow and got the wheels stuck in a rut so got bogged on the diffs. Was going sideways on the track at one point...:ebiggrin:
I've let them down to 12 psi on soft beaches with no problem and they got me out fine. I find especially on sand they excel. They don't bag out as much as other tyres though, which I find perhaps the only downfall of this tyre. On rocks they perform quite well with lower pressures of course.
At speed both on gravel and bitumen, I find I have good traction and also the noise wouldn't be that much greater than standard on the highway.
In saying all this though, I am going to try some Yokohoma AT's next as I like the 'look' of them. If I don't like them I will stick with the duelers as they are great. No chips in the tread I can find either and I have driven on plenty of country gravel roads, sharp rocky tracks etc.
BTW, I am running 205/70R15, 215's will probably be the go for the next set of tyres though.
Yeah ive been looking at the Toyo's as well as ive had few sets of the road tyres on other cars and found them to be very good..