2006 Outback 2.5 n/a Clutch Issues

John Doe

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G'day all... having a few issues with this puss bucket of a vehicle! I'll have to explain it better a little later on, as I'm really tired right now, and need some serious sleep!

Ok.. question is... has anybody had the (dis)pleasure of removing a dual mass flyhwheel from on of these cars? These T50 torx bolts are sooooo f'n tight, that I've broken 2 bits on trying to remove them.. not using impact either!

I have ordered an impact set, so hopefully they might help! Why on earth so tight? They probably have Loctite stud locker on them from factory!

I'll explain in more detail a little later on, as to what's going on, and what happnened, and I'll even include some pics, if possible!

Cheers dudes!!
 
Welcome to the forum JD. I have the same model as you, but the previous year, 2005. Had my clutch commercially replaced, so not able to help you. However, several members have replaced their dual mass units on the previous model, which are the same as ours, I believe. I think Eden did his,if I remember correctly, so he might be able to give you some advice.
There are not as many Outback owners, especially our model, on here as Forrester pilots, so always good to have another on board.
Would be interested to here your story at some time, for what its worth, I have found my Outback to be good, both as a commuter and off road. You might find a couple of my threads on mods of interest.
BTW, where are you from? I would assume USA, given your handle. Would be of interest to members if you were to include your details (country & State / City) in your sig. Maybe there are other members close to you who could be of assistance.
 
G'day John Doe & :welcome: to ORS.
Sorry I can't help re the removing of your flywheel, but I'm sure someone will be able to chime in with an answer :)

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
I removed the D/M flywheel from my Forrie, but they did not have torx bolt securing them.They are on tight because it would really bugger up your day if the should ever come loose. I would suggest you source some standard high tensile bolts so as not to experience this pleasure again.

As in real estate, location location location


G'day all... having a few issues with this puss bucket of a vehicle! I'll have to explain it better a little later on, as I'm really tired right now, and need some serious sleep!

Ok.. question is... has anybody had the (dis)pleasure of removing a dual mass flyhwheel from on of these cars? These T50 torx bolts are sooooo f'n tight, that I've broken 2 bits on trying to remove them.. not using impact either!

I have ordered an impact set, so hopefully they might help! Why on earth so tight? They probably have Loctite stud locker on them from factory!

I'll explain in more detail a little later on, as to what's going on, and what happnened, and I'll even include some pics, if possible!

Cheers dudes!!
 
G'day again... I suppose I should of explained myself a little better in the first post!

The vehicle isn't actually mine, it's just a car I'm doing some work on for a friend of mine... I'm a motor mechanic by trade, and I don't mind doing jobs 'on the side' to help a few people out.

The question about the flywheel bolts was kind of rhetorical, hehe, I know they have to be tight.. but geez, making bolts soooo damn tight while having Torx heads is just plain stupid!! Really f'n stupid!! By the way, the bolts are T50's.

Anyways.. I managed to score some impact Torx sockets and rattle the stupid DMF off! Only just though, as even the impact socket was showing some 'twist' :mad:

After getting it off I checked the DMF and as expected, it was r00ted! So.. the best and cheapest option for the owner, was to get a complete new clutch kit, which included a rigid flywheel.

The kit is from Exedy, part number is FJK-8136SMF and comes complete with pressure plate, clutch plate, rigid flywheel, release bearing, pilot bearing, clutch fork and retaining clips and a set of new flywheel bolts (not Torx, thank goodness). I'd say the kit (retail) would cost about $950 or so, but I do know a retailer who helps me out with pricing so I did it get it somewhat cheaper than retail.

Now, all I'm waiting for are the losers at Subaru to get their act together and get me the CORRECT parts! Man.. I've had little luck with this dealership... they make ordering parts very painful! According to them, the bits I'm after should be here tomorrow.. or day after! Fingers crossed!

The problem with this car and gearbox all started off with the release bearing! The clutch itself wasn't so bad, but the bearing had actually exploded, and completely let go! The fork then became jammed up on the pressure plate fingers, giving it ZERO drive!

This car has given the owner a fair bit of grief.. the engine light is now almost always on, along with the cruise light flashing! This issue was mentioned to the dealer while under warranty.. and they did nothing but just keep on clearing the code! I'm sure they themselves couldn't fix it anyways... although there may be some kind of software update now, to tackle the problem! I wouldn't know.. as I'm not in the Subaru dealership network. The 'squeak' sound it had on take off I'm sure was the release bearing 'crying'... it's just a shame nobody heard it before it finally let go!

Are these cars really that good? I mean, I hear some good reviews about them, and they seem to drive quite well. This particular one has 106k klms on it, and it doesn't have any other issues apparently. Interior looks nice, as do the wheels and body!

Ok.. now for the pictures. Hopefully this will work, and you can see the damage that has come about from the bearing. The bearing itself must have seized, or something, and started to machine a deep groove into the input shaft housing! Now.. I have to replace the housing, as the new bearing will need to slide over it, and I can't afford to have it jamming up on a groove! Check the bearing out.. well, all the pieces it's in! That should be all ONE piece!

Hopefully... by this weekend, I shall have all the parts I need, and will have the gearbox fitted, and the car will be driving all good again :ebiggrin:

Well.. here's hoping!


p.s: Sorry about the loooooong post!
 

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Oops, I should also add... I'm in Australia, living on the east side ;)
 
Well, so do I. You must come on one of our trips. Here is my location on the map



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The problem with this car and gearbox all started off with the release bearing! The clutch itself wasn't so bad, but the bearing had actually exploded, and completely let go!

The bearing itself must have seized, or something, and started to machine a deep groove into the input shaft housing! Now.. I have to replace the housing, as the new bearing will need to slide over it, and I can't afford to have it jamming up on a groove!
The same kind of thing happened to me not so long ago.

The Thruster Bearing (guessing it's the same as the Release Bearing) on mine let go & stuffed the lot.
Although I didnn't put a groove in my shaft, I did warp it badly

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You can now actually buy a "sleeve kit" to go over that shaft.
TSK3(Transmittion Sleeve Kit)
www.sumoparts.com Sells them & are a site vendor
Just check which part No matches your actual Subi though.

If I'd known that earlier, it would have saved me a good few $$$ thats for sure.

But as they say, you live & learn.

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
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