Outback Engine Distroyed

yarney

yarney

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I had this video for a couple of years now
It was at The Condamine Gorge creek crossings on a club trip the person driving was a bit funny when it came to water and cars
He had been stuck twice before once in the Outback in a mud hole the floor was flooded it cost him a new amp which was under the drivers seat :cry:
The second time was in his Brumby the floor got flooded :cry: but no damage
So you can understand why he doesn't like water
You can see not a lot of water come up the front of the car but have a look at the water that come up from under the car
By the way he had a Subaxtreme bash plate as well
The water from under the car and the water from the front came together and that was it
The water that came from under the car caused the problem i think even tho it looks like it was going away from the air intake which is on top of the grill
Cost was a new engine :cry: at the end of the clip you can hear a click that is the starter motor the engine is seized so it won't turn over
We took off the air box and it had about 30 mm of water in it the filter was soaked and we took out the spark plugs and tried to start it but it wouldn't move
If he had only driven slowly it would have been fine

So just remember when going through water go nice and easy the faster you go the more chance things will happen

Jan

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-Egf0ffI4"]YouTube - flooded engine[/ame]
 
Extraordinary. I've driven in deeper water than that in my GT Falcon. He may having been going a tad faster than I'd go, but that is not something I would have expected. Apart from the sump guard, is everything else- intake plumbing- standard? I've had water over the bonnet without dramas. Of course, the more throttle you have, the more wash.
 
Rally said:
Extraordinary. I've driven in deeper water than that in my GT Falcon. He may having been going a tad faster than I'd go, but that is not something I would have expected. Apart from the sump guard, is everything else- intake plumbing- standard? I've had water over the bonnet without dramas. Of course, the more throttle you have, the more wash.
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It has a 2" lift but plumbing is standard that is why i put this up so you can see how easy it is to do.

Jan
 
yarney said:
It has a 2" lift but plumbing is standard that is why i put this up so you can see how easy it is to do.

Jan
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A cautionary tale for those of us with 2" lifts but standard plumbing...

I am thinking through how I can 're-do' air ingress for crossings, without the need for a snorkel.

That was the great thing about my beetle, engine and air at the REAR, carbi and filter HIGH on top of the engine!:ebiggrin:
 
I thought I was seeing things at first & had to watch it twice, & it happened so quickly too.

Regards
Mr Turbo
 
Barry said:
A cautionary tale for those of us with 2" lifts but standard plumbing...

I am thinking through how I can 're-do' air ingress for crossings, without the need for a snorkel.

That was the great thing about my beetle, engine and air at the REAR, carbi and filter HIGH on top of the engine!:ebiggrin:
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I don't know if it will fit but a gen1 liberty air intake that's in the front guard is one thing to do

Jan
 
oooh that is a bit fast - agreed. Ive seen an Ford Escape going into water too fast and he under-estimated how deep it was, water ended up over the bonnet to windscreen and end result? bent conrods because he restarted the engine while in water, A lot of people panic and think its ok to restart the engine, but if your in water situation, don't! because there is a chance if you dont restart the engine would be ok after you remove spark plugs to jet the water out of the cylinders. but if you try restart after water - your dead.

Gen 3 Liberty & outback has nice cold air intake for road cruising, but BAD for water if there is excess of water going there due the design. Snorkle is way to go or change the air intake.
Here is the pic for 3rd gen of what i'm talking about -
B4RSK_077.JPG

Cheers
AP
 
Wow, scary that water went in the intake during what was not a deep crossing.

I've driven through somewhat deeper water without a problem, but then the intake design obviously makes a big difference. Mine picks up from the inner guard and even has a rubber seal at the leading edge of the bonnet.
 
simxs said:
Wow, scary that water went in the intake during what was not a deep crossing.

I've driven through somewhat deeper water without a problem, but then the intake design obviously makes a big difference. Mine picks up from the inner guard and even has a rubber seal at the leading edge of the bonnet.
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That is the best place for the air intake in an off road vehicle if you haven't got a snorkel

Jan
 
i just got my car bogged in a large "puddle" we looked over the engine, no water in intake or anything, but tried to start it and it seems like the engine has seized. the exhaust was completely under water tho, what do you guys think?
 
Hi Sikh3d, and welcome to ORS. What caused the engine to stop? While water can enter an engine through the exhaust, it won't do this while the engine is running. Even then, the water must be at least as high as the engine. However, if you turned the engine off yourself and if the water is high enough, then this could destroy the engine. The basic rule is don't turn the engine off in the water if the exhaust pipe is under water but if you do, you may have to remove all the spark plugs and crank the engine over a few times before attempting to re-start.
 
sikh3d said:
i just got my car bogged in a large "puddle" we looked over the engine, no water in intake or anything, but tried to start it and it seems like the engine has seized. the exhaust was completely under water tho, what do you guys think?
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I would say the engine has "sucked" water in, From what Ive seen to a few people that conrod gets bent after trying to re-start the engine as they dont think of it, if your engine stops in water - never attempt to re-start it, like what Rally said - take spark plugs out etc.
Cheers
AP
 
G'day sikh3d & :welcome: to ORS.

One more thing to concider is how fast & at what speed did you hit the puddle at ?
yarney said:
So just remember when going through water go nice and easy the faster you go the more chance things will happen
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Like yarney said, you should always enter water (or bog hole) at an easy pace.

regards
Mr Turbo
 
I don't get it.

I have a 1997 outback, with the air intake just under the lip of the hood. I have the stock snorkus. I got into water where the bow was breaking over the hood (not what I had planned) but kept pushing. I went through nice and dry but slow and even. We have driven into deeper mud puddles.

Maybe juts bad luck. or he did not heed the warnings from the water God's.
 
Rally said:
Hi Sikh3d, and welcome to ORS. What caused the engine to stop? While water can enter an engine through the exhaust, it won't do this while the engine is running. Even then, the water must be at least as high as the engine. However, if you turned the engine off yourself and if the water is high enough, then this could destroy the engine. The basic rule is don't turn the engine off in the water if the exhaust pipe is under water but if you do, you may have to remove all the spark plugs and crank the engine over a few times before attempting to re-start.
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How do you think a turbo like mine would go, 3" drain pipe going up to the turbo from the diff + massive stock muffler, I reckon you'd need a V16 to suck enough water to do any damage with that sort of volume. I think by the time it got to the depth of the turbo it'd be time to swim away & not look back.;)
 
Crikey - that is spooky. I go slower than this guy but I'd still be doing a steady pace and keeping my momentum up. Hope the Forester MY09's intake is a bit higher than this. That water looks non-threatening to say the least. Lessons...
 
And this is why i love my M.Y :D

That must be pretty unlucky though...after that id be very very wary about water crossings.
 
hahaaha love the video.
This is why I so badly wish I never got rid of my 1973 Land Rover.
Could drive it through an ocean and she wouldn't complain :p
 
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