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Unread 7th June 2019, 07:15 AM
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Yep. I did the Oodnadatta (in flood and rain) and the Flinders Ranges from Wilpena to Arkaroola to Lake Frome and then to Yunta on roadies. Not a problem was had.

Tibooburra - Cameron corner - Coongie lakes (the dune track around the back) - Currawinya - Thargomindah - Dowling track also was a road tyre trip. Not a puncture nor any issues with traction.

I did the Darling River run in our campervan with 10 year old light truck roadies.

I do have ATs now, but once they wear out I'll go back to roadies. I bought the ATs for the Simpson but probably didn't need them. They are amazing on soft sand, mud and clay but in all honesty, sand dunes are probably a bit easier with road tyres because the ATs fully bite and dig in whereas the road tyres float over the top, tiny bits of individual wheel slippage are tolerable and it feels more effortless. The other thing is the look, ATs just look great on a Foz or OB I reckon.

I'm not saying one is better than the other in any way....a good tyre is a good tyre. Good tyres make you feel good.
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When I did the Gibb RR in 2016 there was so much tyre repair going on at various stations it led me to ask what was the problem - "people coming out here in brand new 4WDs with highway tyres" was the response.

I agree the the Oodnadatta Track is no problem as I was on it in April. A few years ago I did get a tread edge / sidewall puncture from an Old Ghan railway spike though.
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UPDATE:
I've installed the Subaxtreme sump guard and had the Kings Springs installed. The rear springs have lifted the rear about an inch by the looks of things. I didn't have a good before photo so I just tried to capture the car in the same place as the previous photo for a comparison. You can see how much higher the car is sitting at the rear wheel well in the second photo. Both photos are with the car with no load in the rear.

I've also added the Thule roof racks which attach to the factory roof racks. Thule aerobars, Thule 753 foot pack and Thule 4063 fitting kit. Got it all second hand. I have installed onto this an Adventure Kings Awning (with awning tent).

I've installed a Kickass 120AH battery pack and wiring kit from Australiandirect.com.au, with an Adventure Kings 120w solar blanket, and a Dometic CFF45 fridge.

I've got a fold up camp kitchen from drifta.com.au which is amazing. The Drifta Camp Kitchen. It fits in the back of the Outback perfectly.
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Have you got the tyres yet? I wouldn't get a light duty all terrain for what you're planning, I think that's very likely to end in disaster with you sitting on the side of the road in some remote area with no spare tyres left

I strongly suggest LT construction ATs. Evenb then you can still get multiple punctures but they are much more likely to cope with the conditions of where you're going

IMO, you can't go past BFG KO2s for touring the outback & remote areas. They're tough & proven on the harsh outback roads

Kumho AT51 also have LT in some sizes. Not sure what others. But you need LT tyres!!!

Also, when are you going? It gets dangerously hot there in summer

You had Kings raised springs fitted? I'm sorry, you're going to hate them on the corrugations. I had Kings raised springs on my Foz doing the Subaru Extreme 8 Deserts Challenge. Because they are so stiff they don't absorb any of the rattles & literally shake the car & everything in it to pieces. This is a list of what broke, purely from the corrugations:
windscreen
satnav/GPS
central locking
air conditioning (this was a big problem, without it you need to drive with the windows open so everything inside gets covered in dust)
reverse switch on gearbox
phone (yes even my phone!)
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Thanks @NachaLuva.

Definitely not going in summer. Probably be up the top end around August - September.

I can’t get LT tyres that fit on the stock 18” rims that fit on a Subie. Definitely looked into it. But also what you say completely contrasts to what @grump says in an earlier post that you can do it on road tyres. And also I’ve been told I don’t want aggressive tyres for sand. So I’ll just say I’ve split the difference and gone halfway.

The Kings are installed and hardly feel stiffer than stock. It’s raised it up, I’ve started putting a bit of weight in the back and it truly doesn’t feel that different. Once I have the Outback loaded to the brim, they should be fine and hopefully sitting at stock height. Probably better than dragging my bum over the ground and having to replace struts halfway across the country. We’ll see though I guess!
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I can’t get LT tyres that fit on the stock 18” rims that fit on a Subie.
Mate seriously do NOT run 18s on the "roads" you're planning on doing!
Fine on bitumen but as soon as you head off the black top onto typical outback dirt roads the harsh ride will be literally bone jarring, esp with raised springs. That will set yourself up for many punctures plus car damage

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Definitely looked into it. But also what you say completely contrasts to what @grump says in an earlier post that you can do it on road tyres
Grump didn't mention doing it on low profile 18" tyres. He has a 03 BH Outback, probably running 65 or 70 profile 16" tyres, although he didn't mention what rubber he's on. And you're going to much more remote areas where low profile 18" tyres are not stocked & might take several weeks to get in, at considerable cost. Have you allowed for this?

He also didn't mention the Gibb River Road. Please research the roads you're planning. The GRR is remote & full of sharp rocks. I'm sure some of the others have commented on that.

I don't agree with his opinion on roads tyres, neither do 99% of the people who live in these areas & drive these roads every day. But we're all entitled to opinions

Do you have a satelllite phone or EPIRB? your mobile phone won't have reception in most of these remote areas until you get to a hotspot

Low profile 18" non LT tyres is such a high risk. Put it this way, if I was running a trip to these areas, I would simply refuse anyone to come along on 18" low profile non LT rubber. It would be a flat no (pun intended lol)

I strongly suggest you fit 17" LT tyres but at the end of the day it's your car, your decision. I wish you the best of luck
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Absolutely agree with Nachaluva - 18" wheels with very little sidewall out there is asking for trouble ;-)
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Well while you guys are discussing whether 0.2” to 0.4” more sidewall on a 17” rim will make my life worth living or not, I’ll be travelling the country in my Subaru, with the mods I decided on for my travel plans and my budget. I’ll let you know whether it was a mistake when I get back.
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We're just trying to help mate, passing on our knowledge & experience. It's up to you what you do with that...

Good luck with the trip & yes, please do report back how you go
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