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Unread 27th January 2015, 05:12 PM
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1. I have HotBits coil overs with a mix of HotBits and H&R springs.

2. I can change the ride height very easily but I set it to about 5 cm (2") lift.

3. On my SF, I also had to change the rear lateral links (SG +1,5cm) because there wasn't enough space between the chassis and the coil overs on full droop.

4. I drive without sway bars but for road use, I can stiffen the hydraulics (compression and rebound) for a firmer ride.

5. I first had some Dobinson +30mm springs, perfect for the front but too harsh at the rear so I went back to SG SLS struts with SF OEM springs at the rear. Then found some 2nd hand Proflex evo2 inverted coil overs that needed too much maintenance (had to put some fork oil every 500km to keep the PTFE bushes lubricated)

6. So far (4 months), very happy with the HotBits !
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1) Raised kings on kyb g2 sf shocks all round, oe was shagged out 4 busted shocks. I did have 50mm front and 60mm rear, lift blocks in but took them out as they made the car ride like absolute crap without other supporting mods i didnt have the time to make back then.

2) Not sure, but side by side, with my larger tyres (only .5" larger radius) it's comparable to dedmans 2" blocks and raised kings.

3)shocks top out hard cornering or on bumpy roads, large increase in under steer,body roll, Feels stiff and like it rides better but times i recorded ( such as up mt macedon, or lancefield rd <- drive that one its ****ing awesome) show the raised kings are noticably slower.

3) It's fine if I'm not acting like a hoon so 99% of the time, with my tools in the boot or camping gear it rides better, tows a light trailer (500kg) much more comfortably. unladden it's incredibly harsh. with only the springs and 205/75/15 tyres rear camber is noticeably out, in 60,000km I've only needed the rear tyres switch from rim to rim once to correct uneven wear. I think with 1" blocks and rear trailing arm spacers + camber bolts it would be better, but compared to standard the raised springs don't follow terrain as well offroad. Clearance has stopped me breaking stuff though so its all a trade off.
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Also, how much body-lift will the stock swaybars take before becoming a hinderance
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For my 2002 SG XS
1. What brand raised springs do you have?
replaced standard front and rear SLS springs and struts with King raised springs and KYB Xcel G struts

2. What is the actual lift provided in your case (list model please)?
About 30 mm initially then I fitted Gorilla HDPE 1 inch (25 mm) strut top spacers front and rear so I have just over 2 inches of lift

3. Have the springs required any other changes or caused any issues?
No, but am going to fit longer sway bar links.
I run 215/60/16 tyres on road and 215/65/16 AT tyres off road. the 65 series add approximately 9 mm of extra lift.
the front and rear wheel alignments were done without the need to install additional camber bolts

4. How do you like the ride and the handling? King Springs, even if raised, are supposed to correct the handling after the installation of 1"+ spacers.

I have done 40,000 km (25k miles) since I installed the raised springs.I live on the edge of the high country and are driving on mountain roads constantly and love the ride and handling, it is just perfect. The OEM suspension is way too soft. I originally thought the raised springs would be adequate but for serious off roading I needed the extra 1 inch lift. The ride height and clearance is now perfect.

For my 2004 SG XS the OEM suspension is in very good condition and I am installing only the Gorilla 1 inch lift blocks until the SLS fails. Its handling unraised feels way too soft.
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Originally Posted by MiddleAgeSubie View Post
You guys turned my questions into an excellent, highly informative thread!

Maybe worth making it a sticky?
If it stays on topic it will be made a sticky

zayneg questions moved here: http://www.offroadsubarus.com/showthread.php?t=6005

OT (not about raised springs) moved here: http://www.offroadsubarus.com/showthread.php?t=6007
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These are the ones I fitted.

Not raised, but a replacement for the SLS on the SG, with heavy duty, variable rate springs from Pedders:



Link to Pedders site:

http://www.pedders.com.au/product-re...ing-shock-kits
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1. What brand raised springs do you have?
Kings Heavy Duty +30mm; see my setup here: http://www.offroadsubarus.com/showthread.php?t=953

2. What is the actual lift provided in your case (list model please)?
MY’03 – Minimum Clearance Front (exhaust) 265mm Rear (diff) 315mm. Hub To Guard / Ground to Guard (mm): Front 480 / 800; rear 490 / 820

3. Have the springs required any other changes or caused any issues?
No (but they sit on modified struts)

4. How do you like the ride and the handling? King Springs, even if raised, are supposed to correct the handling after the installation of 1"+ spacers.
The ride is harsh unladen but great with a load; handling is not bad but it’s no sports car either!
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Ok have done this last weekend with my brother in law (who is an apprentice mechanic ) and still took us approx 8hours so don't believe YouTube. Was previously running pedders coils on standard front and pedders rear gas shocks. Yes a stiffer kyb rear strut on the rear is required as per their site states if running raised coils and that's what I have now. After a week of running them they have settled and are really positive and perform well off road. On the road around town you really feel the manual gear changes especially unloaded but that's what you sacrifice for extra clearance and the ability to load more gear, yeah no regrets loving them highly recommend it.
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1. What brand raised springs do you have?
King Springs Heavy Duty Raised Front + Back.

2. What is the actual lift provided in your case (list model please)?
30mm (which has now reduced after 50,000km) - Rear Paranoid 40mm HDPE spacers have now been installed to compensate).

3. Have the springs required any other changes or caused any issues?
Since the raised springs only stayed 'raised' for 50,000km, next time I'd probably go standard height with 2" spacers rear and 1" front).

4. How do you like the ride and the handling? King Springs, even if raised, are supposed to correct the handling after the installation of 1"+ spacers.
Currently the fronts have dropped to OEM height so geometry is factory, but the rears with HD raised springs and 40mm spacers have resulted in way too much positive camber and it feels like scheisse, squeals on roundabouts and inspires no confidence in the wet. I have camber bolts which I am hoping will fix everything once installed.

Ride quality and handling when the vehicle is loaded up is exemplary!! With a full tank and 140kg of camping gear in the back the rear drops to 30mm above standard and the positive camber zeroes out. The firmer springs keep body roll in check and the car corners, handles and feels amazing - almost like a rally car/hot hatch hybrid.
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Basically, then, this is like getting larger tires for lift--a year later you lose a cm or more just like that, threadwear being extra...except that this plays out over a longer period of time.

Clearance is a dynamic thing on trail/track and it varies with cargo but one would think that it could be more or less a static number in the garage...apparently not.
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