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Unread 18th March 2019, 03:27 AM
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Default 2013 crosstrek vs 2011 Tacoma in mud head to head

Me and a good friend of mine have been reviewing my crosstrek (stock) offroad and seeing how it handles against a typical(highly modified) 4x4. We are going to spend more time doing an in depth look at the car and its systems but just wanted to have some fun with this segment (part 1 of 3) enjoy :D

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Unread 24th March 2019, 11:49 PM
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Was surprised how far ahead I could get in front of the Tacoma when I had TC off, granted he was in 2wd but I thought his larger motor and mud tires would balance that out. Nice thing is I can shut off TC with the push of a button while on the move. He has to stop or at the very least, slow down. That takes time where as the Subaru feels like it's always ready to go
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Shift on the fly must be a Subaru thing ! Dual range works that way too, no need to slow down nor stop.
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^ nope. My Mitsubishi Triton, with "Super Select", can do several things on the fly. Turn on or off "Anti Slide Control", RWD to AWD, AWD to AWD Centre Locked. However I do need to stop to go into low range.
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One other vehicule I know of being able to shift to low range and back to high range on the fly is the Pinzgauer but there are maybe a few more.
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^ nope. My Mitsubishi Triton, with "Super Select", can do several things on the fly. Turn on or off "Anti Slide Control", RWD to AWD, AWD to AWD Centre Locked. However I do need to stop to go into low range.
I have to stop to go into LR or out of LR. It is not exactly a hassle.

I keep it in 4H on dirt and faster, easy trail, and 4L on moderate or difficult trail and that's it. There is no switching back and forth.

Sometimes I am tempted to go faster in 4H uphill and then I remember that it is really not good for the transmission and I stay in 4L.

The biggest concerns with CVT are with that scenario. I could get my 5EAT easily over 250F on sustained climbs and CVTs are worse. I have seen a CVT get the AT temp warning light on where I had no issues with the 5EAT.
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I reckon Subaru's CVT is a work in progress. They've come a long way so far and they've still got a way to go.
I can see them coupling it to a high speed electric motor as an end goal, whether it is or not time will tell.
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Yes, everything is always a work in progress, but I think Subaru CVT is pretty good by now.

The issue is that Subaru has absolutely no interest in any serious offroad features and thus it cannot be expected that they would invest one cent in doing anything more than X-mode. It is quite amazing they went that far!

Not having low range is an issue even if the cars can climb just fine without it, which is only true of turbo and H6 models in the first place: it is much more dangerous when descending very steep slopes and the longevity of the transmission is compromised if the vehicle is used seriously offroad with any regularity.

Again, Subaru in the US is a snow/rain car with some dirt road and beach use. Since it is by far Subaru's biggest market I would not hold my breath for them to do anything beyond x-mode.
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The cvt has it's issues and the crosstrek is definatly not a hard core off roader. But we are working to remedy that and see what needs to be changed to improve it's life and performance as a more serious offroad vehicle. Right now still just playing with the car and learning it's weaknesses, but going to start upgrading very soon.

Stage 2 if anyone's interested
https://youtu.be/1LSA-cpdx3Q
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