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The launch edition, all 4,000 or so units, sold out in less than a day in spite of a price tag of over 60,000 before tax. That's over 85,000 AUD before tax.

It will be extremely successful. My only big question is why trucks in this category have a Subaru Tribeca payload capacity. They can tow but their payload is rather pathetic.

My 4Runner has 1,550lb vs 1,100-1,200 for Gladiators, Tacomas, etc.


As for offroading, the Rubicon Gladiator will have no competition in its class. The wheelbase will be an issue on some tight trails.
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My only big question is why trucks in this category have a Subaru Tribeca payload capacity. They can tow but their payload is rather pathetic.

My 4Runner has 1,550lb vs 1,100-1,200 for Gladiators, Tacomas, etc.
What's the GCM etc of the respective vehicles?
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What's the GCM etc of the respective vehicles?

Why?

On mine, it is great because it is the max vehicle plus the max trailer. The only impact is the tongue weight taking from the payload.

But the midsize trucks/utes, from what I have seen, give you a little more max towing but cut from GCWR/GCM. So there GCM is less the GVWR+max tow.

Either way, the "mid size" trucks just seem too light duty to me for being a truck. I also know nothing about trucks, so there is that. Just seems odd to me.
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Why?
But the midsize trucks/utes, from what I have seen, give you a little more max towing but cut from GCWR/GCM. So there GCM is less the GVWR+max tow.
That's why. Quite common with vehicles here that they bump up the towing capacity, but as soon as you load up your vehicle you go over GCM.
It's a bit dodgy I reckon, bordering on false advertising.
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Such versatility. I would choose the overland setup with the diamond-back canopy.
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That's why. Quite common with vehicles here that they bump up the towing capacity, but as soon as you load up your vehicle you go over GCM.
It's a bit dodgy I reckon, bordering on false advertising.
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Such versatility. I would choose the overland setup with the diamond-back canopy.
The problem, as Ben and I discussed, is that while this rendering is picture perfect, the moment you load the thing with all the stuff, especially in Australian use, you are stuck in your driveway.

The Overland trim only gets payload of 1100lb (less than a Tribeca!).
The Rubicon trim gets 1,200 with the manual.

You have to go down to the base Sport model to get 1500-1600lb depending on transmission. That puts it where I am with the 4Runner.


I have a permanent weight of 250 worth of armor and 50 extra pounds from tires, add tools and recovery gear and my payload is about 1,150lb which is right where the Overland Gladiator is stock and empty.
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It's actually called, the overland trim! I wouldn't go for that then. If I will go with a truck. I want maximum payload. 500kg is very low. My SG is rated at 400kg.

I am not sure, as well, why many would put in lower payloads. It may have to do with the type of transmission they are putting in or they do that to protect the company just in case the transmission fails.

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It's actually called, the overland trim! I wouldn't go for that then. If I will go with a truck. I want maximum payload. 500kg is very low. My SG is rated at 400kg.

I am not sure, as well, why many would put in lower payloads. It may have to do with the type of transmission they are putting in or they do that to protect the company just in case the transmission fails.

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