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Old 10th February 2012, 07:23 AM
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Gidday Folks

This has been an epic in the making!

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For a distillation of the design factors that I eventually came up with for my trailer and tent, see this post and the following post.

The fitting and commissioning of my camper trailer tent is in a separate thread, here.

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My 7x4 trailer is just over 30 years old.
The tyres are also 30 y.o. ... 165x13.
The wheels are possibly 20 years older than that; probably Holden rims, I don't know.

About 10~13 years ago, I had the ladder frame replaced with 2x1" structural box. I also had the floor and half way up the sides replaced with 16 gauge galvanised steel.

The front has been converted to a drop front.

The spare wheel holder has mostly rusted through, and needs replacement.

The wheel bearings, axle, hubs and springs are in good serviceable condition.

The trailer tows straight and true at all speeds (up to over 130 km/h).

It really needs 3x new wheels and tyres, and an urgent replacement of the spare wheel holder bar.

After that, it needs some love and affection; some minor repairs that any competent handyman with a welder can do; some elbow grease with a wire brush and sand paper, and a repaint.

Beyond me, and even if it weren't, I cannot fit 16x6.5" Subaru wheels on it without replacing the axle; hubs; mud guards - you get the drift. Cost more for me to have someone else do all this than a new, purpose-built trailer!!

I have found someone this arvo who has helped me source proper hubs to fit my Subie steel wheels. Proper clearance. No extra over 'standard' hubs for the hubs, or the axle. This was a BIG hurdle!!

So. 6x4 box trailer with 18~20" sides, and a locking lid and 16x6.5" Subie wheels.

The company can do the whole job; including water/fuel jerry can holders; tool box; side mount spare wheel; side opening steel lid; gas bottle holder - including locking brackets all over the place.

Judging from the trailers under construction on the floor, they are not into making crap! Their "basic duty" trailer makes most "heavy duty" trailers I have looked at look lightly built ...

Have had a rough guesstimate. Will get a proper quote from them next week.

To be continued - as the story unfolds ...

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Old 12th February 2012, 03:19 AM
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Old 12th February 2012, 03:32 AM
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Gidday CB

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Of my old one?

The new one hasn't even been specced yet; or even roughly quoted (that's tomorrow).

It will not be built until after Easter, at the earliest.
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Cant wait to see pics of the new one...
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Old 13th February 2012, 03:05 AM
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Gidday Folks

The rough quote today came in at $1,800 - without its tin lid ... Bugger!

That's quite a bit more than the "$1100 to $1200" that the bloke was talking about last week!! Same specs, BTW ...

Looks as if it is a LOT more attractive to repair my existing trailer.

I will have to check the price of a new axle and hubs.
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Old 14th February 2012, 01:20 AM
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Hi again Folks

Called at Melbourne Trailer & Caravans on the way back from the Doctor.
Lovely, helpful people there.

It seems that it is not going to cost me a small fortune to repair my old clunker, after all.

I have 3x 16x6.5" Subie rims and the tyres will come off Roo2, so those items are not included.

A very basic rebuild includes:

1) 45 mm square axle measured, and turned to size;
including hubs and bearings to suit my rims and tyres $240

2) U-bolts and fishplates for axle $19

3) Two x 12" high x 4' wide tailgates for front & rear $74

4) Fitting of the above $50~100

total around $400~500

Extras will be:
  • Two swing down stands at the back at about $70/pr.
  • Two jerry can holders at $24.20 ea.
  • Spare holder needs to be re-manufactured.
Fitting of the above items. I have a name.

I will also need to construct a removable lid from marine ply, gate hinges and probably with some kind of framing and stays.

Then it's a matter of hitting it seriously hard with a wire brush and some paint to slow down the metal moths that are still left gorging on it.

The ladder frame (2x2" outer frame; 2x1" ladder - all structural box steel)and tray (16 gauge galvanised) are in very good condition. Springs look OK, if ghastly ... . Drawbar is serviceable, but could do with some attention.

Mudguards are fine (at least 16 gauge - would take the side out of a truck ... ); and should fit the bigger wheels and tyres OK. The 16x6.5 are only about 1.5" bigger in radius but wider. Using a standard 40 mm tyre to rear clearance, they may be about 10 mm wider than the guard. Barely even noticeable ... .

Amazing how a quote of $1,800 for the basics can focus one's attention more closely on what one already has ... .
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Old 10th April 2012, 10:57 AM
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Gidday Folks

Had the trailer measured for axles and hubs today. About 2.5 mm leeway.

I reckon it is best if the manufacturer makes a cock-up from their own measurements, rather than from mine!

Trailer has been delivered to the trailer doctor this morning.
Should get it back all fixed with two new gates; new axle & hubs; new A-bar; steel top and re-painted, sometime next week, if all goes well.

Of course, that means I have to get new tyres for Roo2 in the very near future. Will look at the Michelin XM2s tomorrow. They are a very long-lasting and high performance on-road tyre. Tweaksta reckons they are pretty stake-proof, and fine off-road tyres -
http://www.offroadsubarus.com/showpo...3&postcount=28

Struth, even my current Pirellis are good enough for the off-road stuff I have any desire to do ... .

I have been at a client's from late morning till about 9 pm (and a couple of days at Easter ... ). At least I finally fixed the network problem. I am doggedly determined about most things.

Feel completely and utterly buggered.
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Old 11th April 2012, 09:10 AM
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Gidday CB

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PIC's ?
I did remember to take some piccies of the dear old rust bucket prior to its surgery.

It will be a bit like the woodsman's grandfather's axe:

Same axe, but with five new handles and three new heads ... .

Tyres for Roo2 have now been ordered. They go on tomorrow. The Pirellis get swapped onto the trailer rims at the same time.

I think I forgot to mention that the trailer is also having a steel, lockable lid made, with provision for ordinary roof racks to bolt my roof basket onto.
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Can't wait to see pics! What are you planning on hauling with the mighty tag along?
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