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Old 1st June 2018, 10:00 PM
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The never ending development continues. With the engine, gearbox and diffs sorted, for now, I am having another look at suspension. Currently I am running heavy duty raised springs with conventional struts. I am looking into a number of options. One is simply to fit a lift kit in on top of what I already have. Option 2 is to replace the existing springs with heavy duty standard height springs with a lift kit. Option 3 is to install the hotbits coilovers. Option 4 is to have a custom made set up. The latter 2 will be a long travel design. I really like the custom set up, as I can specify spring rates, ride height and have the dampers dyno tuned for the springs. The strut bodies would also be significantly stronger, and everything will be of the highest quality. Sadly, it would also be the most expensive.
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Old 1st June 2018, 11:42 PM
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Sadly, it would also be the most expensive.

You're concerned about this aspect? C'mon, it's the only choice for your car surely.


(although I think you still need to lift it a bit, just for the clearance if you get wet - although if your going dedman style, no lift would help.)
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Old 1st June 2018, 11:56 PM
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Oh yes, option 4 would include a lift.
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Old 2nd June 2018, 02:58 AM
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The Hotbits is a fully custom setup.

-Buy any lengths you like.

-Buy any springs you like (Buy separately from a company like Eibach).

-Buy any lift you like. Idealy you want the lift to come from an extended shock as lift blocks are just wasted suspension length that can't travel.

-You get height adjustment.

-Much stronger then standard.

-DT1 have one dampening adjustment nob. DT2 have separate adjustments for bump and rebound.

-They are rebuildable if you want further tuning.

Price is the only downside. What exactly would you do in option 4?
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Old 2nd June 2018, 03:05 AM
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Hotbits would be my choice, giving excellent wheel travel without selling a kidney. They're still not cheap but are very good!
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Old 2nd June 2018, 03:20 AM
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Option 4 requires a fair degree of homework, and as with the diff I might go down my own development path. But one thing with option 4 is that high speed rough road body control will be outstanding, while offering long travel as well. Either way, it’s not going to happen tomorrow, next week or next month.
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Old 2nd June 2018, 03:32 AM
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If I were to do it all over again I'd most likely go the hotbits route.


(You could then fit bigger, fatter ATs )
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Old 2nd June 2018, 03:45 AM
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See, Kevin and I have been on a few trips together. He was with me on my first off road trip in my current Forester, where I got no punctures and didn’t get bogged. He was with me in the Pilliga, when I ran AT tyres for the first time, and got a puncture for my troubles with a stick through the sidewall. He was with me on another trip as we drove out of Tilpa on the same tyres, and got another sidewall puncture on the road to Burke. He was with me again on the Bendethra trip, when I went back to road tyres. There he saw me do the water crossings and the muddy bank getting out first go while others on AT tyres struggled and took 3 or more attempts, despite not been lumbered with a trailer like me. So yes, I appreciate his cheekiness!
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Old 2nd June 2018, 09:21 AM
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you want the lift to come from an extended shock as lift blocks are just wasted suspension length that can't travel.

This I never even considered when I put in my lift, but if I could afford to do it I would be kicking myself now that I didn't go down this route instead (which I can't, thus saving my backside some pain)


Mix in a bit of a body lift and you could get really funky with the suspension I reckon.
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Old 2nd June 2018, 11:17 AM
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Hotbits would be my choice, giving excellent wheel travel without selling a kidney. They're still not cheap but are very good!
you think kidney cost more then those hotbits ? they cost more then car itself
i just looked at some page and dt1 with +100m lift would cost like $3.3k and its not for 4 of them is it ?
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