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I've been mulling this over for quite a while, and no matter to which forum i turn, which 'expert' i speak to at 4WD stores locally, i get most recommending that i should have my driving lights wired via a relay, triggered from the high beams.
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i have this one in the spare fill for the hi beam (spots) which i wired to come on only with the hi beams headlight switch.
Now i'm not saying this is wrong, but just want to understand why this seems to be the norm? Is it a legal requirement to have it so? or can i simple tap my cig lighter to provide switched 12V to the relay instead?

I am a bit of a control freak and like options, so would like to have the option of turning my driving lights (which will be my soon to be installed Lightforce 170's) whenever i want.

Any thoughts or explanations would be appreciated.

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I have the factory low/high and the factory fogs. I also have HELLA 500 driving lights.

They have thier own switch (relay and fuse).

I have never heard of what you are talking about before. I know the logic with the fog lights, and i use my driving lights with or without the high beams.

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hey Nipper, see that's what i'm thinking i'd like to do, use my driving lights with or without high beams. there seems to be much confusion as to whether it's a legal requirement in Australia to have it attached to your high beams or not.
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there seems to be much confusion as to whether it's a legal requirement in Australia to have it attached to your high beams or not.
Belayslave i wouldn't give a crap about the legalities of it because you'll never get busted for it. every car ivé owned ivé had spots and it never come up at rego time. and i think it's more a state law than the whole of Oz. the reason i have mine controlled by the hi beams is so that if someone is coming in the opposite direction and you have to dip down for a few seconds you just simply flick the stick insted of mucking around with two switches. now i cant understand why anyone would want to have powerfull spots on with just low beams. isn't the idea to have a sh1t load of light? if you still want it the way you described there is a way where you can have both options. you will need a toggle or slider type switch with two switching options. ( its called a two pole switch.)
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Here in the states we are limited to six light the rest have to have covers. I am having no luck googling the subject from my end of the planet. Ask a local Jeep club or whoever inspects/licenses cars there. NEVER listen to a sutoparts store, as I find them the least informed.

I did find this, which i think will steer you in the right direction

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/...gulations.aspx

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I think you will find it's a requirement in most states to have your spotties wired to your high beam. It's to do with the safety of other road users.
You have to dim your lights if a car is coming the other way and wired this way you can't 'forget' to turn your spotties off. Makes sense to me.
Mucking around with 2 switches could be dangerous to the other driver.
As someone said, why would you want your spotties on with low beam anyway? Just seems easier to do it the other way to me.
In reality, in NSW, if you have spotties fitted they should be checking it with the annual rego check.
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What are you guys calling "spotties"

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^ "spotlights" aka driving lights be they broad and/or pencil beam. Mine are armed via a dash switch and then a relay linked to high beam.
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As I understand the legislation in NSW, driving lights- as opposed to fog lights, need to be linked to the high beams. The correct way to do that is via a fused relay and some 5mm cable- just make sure it is not all insulation! I think there also needs to be a switch inside the cabin, although I do not run that. Not sure what the advantage would be of having them come on independant of the high beams, as the most convenient switch for turning them on is the high beam switch at your fingers.

How the laws in different states- or countries- applies I do not know, but I thought most states in Australia have pretty similar laws
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Thats right Rally. You are supposed to have a seperate switch in the cabin that turns the spotties (driving lights) on or off but they are actually operated by the high beam switch.
I think NSW has a rule or 2 about the use of foggies doesn't it? Only on in low light or something, unlike QLD where every bugger turns them on.
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