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Old 17th April 2016, 08:26 PM
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Never heard of RE002, not available here in the US.

Is it P or LT tire?

17" wheel size tires for Subarus are almost exclusively P metric in the US whereas the "real" AT tires are LT. I think that there may be more LT options for 16" wheels.

Some tires that feature tough sidewall construction in LT sizes are much softer in P sizes.

This was a major reason to get the BFG TA KO2. There are only 5 AT tires my Outback can fit w/o major compromises and this is the only LT tire among them.
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Passenger tyre, since replaced by the RE-003. It's not an off road tyre. I run 16" rims from an MY99 WRX on my MY04 Forester. Made it up here, even though well worn, first attempt. A Pajero on brand new AT's took 3 goes, had no trailer.

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A Pajero on brand new AT's took 3 goes, had no trailer.
Something wrong with the car or driver I would suggest rather than the tyres!
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Old 18th April 2016, 03:09 AM
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Which brings me back to my pet argument. You can spend all the money you want on a "real" 4WD, put the best tyres on it, and it's almost all for nothing. Better off to save the money and learn how to drive. Time and again I see people raising their cars and putting "The worlds best off road tyre" on them, when in the vast majority of cases it's just not needed.
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Gee I buy a set of Yoko ATS and the debate starts all over again. Well MAS & Rally we all have different views and have formed opinions based on our experience. And that's okay!

I bought this set for my 2004 Foz and these tyres until worn will be used as snow tyres. From my first hand experience the ATS are excellent in snow.

As both my daughters work as ski instructors and I am a skier the Foz travels from home up the Black Spur to and from Mt Buller several times a week over the ski season. We have on site parking at the lodge and the road up to the Mt Buller village can be treacherous due to ice.

This is the second set on this Foz. Based on my first hand experience the tyres perform faultlessly on very wet roads , snow and ice. Obviously there are times when we don't have a choice and the police won't let you proceed to the village unless you have snow chains fitted due to the ice.

At the Victorian ski resorts it is compulsory for overnight vehicles to carry chains. I have skied extensively in NSW and you guys don't get the ice we do on the roads and hence rarely need chains.

I have also used the ATS for 4 wheel driving and have made many trips in the high country and in the Victorian desert country and can not fault them. It terms of airing down I have gone down to 14 psi as the lowest. I am aware of side walls failing but if you drove as hard as we do on some trips I am not surprised something gives.

Anyway as I said we all have different experiences that have formed our views and that's okay
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I agree. All I can do is talk of my own experiences. I've not taken my car through snow/ice (or sand either for that matter) to any great extent.
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Yup, it would be so boring if we all went for the same thing all the time!

Most people around here with lifts and oversize tires probably never ever go places where generic sedans do not. But they spend money, worsen the mpg, and probably also affect the safety of their vehicles for "looks."

Such is life. So long as they help keep AT tire costs acceptable and do not rear end me....
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Currently I have stock 215/65r16 on my 2011 SH forester auto 2.5L. I'm looking at going to either 215/70r16 or 225/70r16. Does anyone know if there's a noticeable difference in performance (town and country driving), fuel economy, ride and handling?
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I'm looking at going to either 215/70r16 or 225/70r16.
225/70/16 with a 2" lift kit is the largest you can fit on a SH without rubbing

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Does anyone know if there's a noticeable difference in performance (town and country driving), fuel economy, ride and handling?
With the larger sidewall, ride comfort will be noticeably better as it absorbs bumps in the road more. Handling won't be quite as good when cornering hard. In normal driving will be similar.

You will notice a difference in acceleration, braking & economy but depending on the brand/type of tyre won't be too bad. Light truck tyres like BFGs will be more noticeable, a trade off for them being such a tough tyre
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Old 3rd August 2017, 09:31 PM
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I would advise against getting LT, heavy tires for a naturally aspirated H4 car.

Even on an H6 or turbo models, LTs are best used for trips only. I ran my TA KO2s for 4,000 miles to see if I could consider running them all the time. The answer is negative, unless you have no room to store another set of wheels/tires AND are doing challenging offroad frequently.

That said, there is one positive to the LT on road and that is the stiff sidewall. The car corners better with LT tires than equal size P-metric tires.

The difference in comfort between 225 60 17 and 225 65 17 is massive in favor of the latter (in my case). Similarly, my car rides so much better than our Tribeca, which wears its stock 255 55 18 size. The two cars are very similar, so it is an apt comparison.

I strongly recommend SubieLift OZ for anyone who goes places. Great kit, low price, makes an easily felt difference offroad. But I cannot recommend any lift at all for the purpose of "looks."

I also strongly recommend Subaru's STi flexible front strut brace accessory. It may be pricey, but it is a MUCH more sophisticated way of ensuring great cornering after lift than the common rear sway bar upgrade.
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