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Need to get it on one of those rolling ramps they use to demonstrate various AWD systems, set all wheels to spin but one. It should climb no problems, no wheelspin (at least on the rear anyway)

Like this: https://youtu.be/ooQRxlChvMw
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Gee Matt, you’d reckon I have never been off the black stuff before. It’s all good, I know what I am doing
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Need to get it on one of those rolling ramps they use to demonstrate various AWD systems, set all wheels to spin but one. It should climb no problems, no wheelspin (at least on the rear anyway)

Like this: https://youtu.be/ooQRxlChvMw
That looks like a nice test for what it is: road/ice.

It is not an off-road simulation. The incline is too mellow.

Knowing what mine does, I will be shocked if a stock Subaru is capable of climbing a steep loose hill on one rear wheel. The issue is that the front is unloaded, even with wheels touching the ground, which results in a burnout no matter how careful you are. The car MIGHT get moving, eventually, even with the rears on loose terrain, but on just one rear wheel? I cannot see it. In fact, on one of the pics I posted in my review, the car could not move from stop at all. It was just spinning this wheel and that wheel and going nowhere as the VDC could not cope with the looseness+steepness of the spot. This is what happens without a locking center and without low range. It is great on slippery paved and dirt roads, but when the going gets rough it shows it was not engineered for serious off-road work.
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That looks like a nice test for what it is: road/ice.

It is not an off-road simulation. The incline is too mellow.
It would show the lockers in action though wouldn't it? If the centre lock and rear locks were engaged, the opposite wheel to the one with grip shouldn't spin at all, and theoretically the front wheels wont spin either because of the center lock.

Or is that not theway the lockers work? Kinda seems silly to do all the work if the wheels still spin (as opposed to turn) when no resistance..
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Firstly I am a bit surprised more people haven’t shown interest in this development. It would explain why there is little commercial interest.

Secondly, I imagine one of the front wheels might momentarily slip, but no more than that. It might barely be noticeable.
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It would show the lockers in action though wouldn't it? If the centre lock and rear locks were engaged, the opposite wheel to the one with grip shouldn't spin at all, and theoretically the front wheels wont spin either because of the center lock.

Or is that not theway the lockers work? Kinda seems silly to do all the work if the wheels still spin (as opposed to turn) when no resistance..
My bad, if you are talking actual lockers, as Rally has, then yes, it should do the trick. I was talking stock car with VDC.
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Firstly I am a bit surprised more people haven’t shown interest in this development. It would explain why there is little commercial interest.
Cost! And as yet not proven.
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Everything comes to how much its cost. Your locker cost more then whole car.here those older foresters cost less then 1k. So no matter how good it is in car main reason why most ppl buy foresters its that they cheap. And long travel shocks and lockers and other stuff in them its making them cost morenthen some big 4x4.
But people need to see it to believe it. Meaning seeing results seeing comparisons. How its goes what it does and such.then i think more people would be interested

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I meant interest in a technical or user sense, not commercial interest. Just an observation and an insight perhaps as to what people want and don't want
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Ohh im very on to to have locker but not for that price. So interest starts falling after you know price.
Before i knew anything about subaru awd i had no idea how anything of it works and was not interested into it. I just bought fwd car, but later as i watched videos and read about what they can do and how they go i was sold.
I think people need info need videos and reading about it.
Same as i first time sae in video what solid axle lockers do. Really all it needs its just comparison video even 2 min long if its shown simple and clear how it works its enough.
If i would see what miracles does subaru e locker i might think that i could get it someday
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