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I hate towing.

I hate towing offroad.

I have a roof top tent.

Everything I need to take camping fits in my car.

BUT,

My wife loves to nest. She wants to set up the tent, shade sails, annexe, annexe annexe and everything else as soon as we get to a campsite meaning my car is captive and can't go and play in the dunes, get firewood or run back into town to grab a bog roll or more beer.

So perhaps a camp trailer that the tent can sit on with a nice little kitchen underneath for her to play in is the solution.

I think I'd get a winch for worst case scenario recoverys.

Obviously it would need to have 5x100 wheels.
A foolproof method for lifting the tent to 6" from its 3" traveling position.
Stabilisers so it can be errected without being attached to the car.
Lightweight design.
Good suspension with dampening.

Thoughts?
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Firstly you should of got a turbo to tow it. ****ed up there!

Secondly it's a good idea... I'll buy your roof top tent if you want?? Give you some cash to buy a camper trailer..
Speak to adrian about the 5x100 wheels on a trailer, he's done it a few times.
You'll also want trailer brakes which I can help you out with.
Don't go hardcore offroad with in, park it in a semi-offroad area where it isn't likely you'd get stuck.

Lastly with your gearbox you should go 1.59 low range to tow offroad!
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Thanks mate but keeping the tent and shouldn't need brakes...or turbo.
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Are you after a prebuilt trailer or a diy? Diy/paying a fabricator can be great as you can customise it to your needs.
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Mate, I understand what you are saying only too well.

However, having the two little ones who, like all little creatures, will rapidly take up more and more of that precious space, will force this outcome eventually, sooner or later.

Having a happy wife also cannot be overestimated ...

The EJ-253 is everything you need for towing an unbraked camper trailer that's under 750 Kgs GVM, under even some fairly extreme off road conditions.

My plan is to dump the trailer as per Taza's suggestion, then go to the interesting places unencumbered by the weight of all the crap that makes life so comfortable! I can't rough it anymore. For quite different reasons, you are also approaching that inevitable point.

IME, towing is made more than acceptably easy by having a trailer that tows straight at all speeds. I cannot tell you what a difference fitting the McHitch hitch made to mine as well. Mostly, I am simply not particularly aware of the trailer being there, even when fully loaded at around 500-550 Kgs.
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Have a look at Drifta website, dont know if it is in your price range but some very good ideas.
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^ That does look like a lot of goodies for the money, TB. Great find, mate ... .

Here are the links, ST:

http://www.drifta.com.au/offroad-tourer/

and PDF spec sheet:

http://www.drifta.com.au/wp-content/...Spec-sheet.pdf

Make certain that you get hubs and offset that match Subie stud pattern, metric studs and same offset. This was one of the biggest problems I had when rebuilding my trailer as a camper trailer.

I note that Luke uses a McHitch connection.

As for suspension, the KISS principle applies. I have never seen any trailer with a broken slipper leaf spring, or a double shackle one either, FTM.

If you search somewhere like myswag.org, you will find people having all sorts of problems with their fancy suspension setups. In order to overcome the problems they have, they tend to end up with suspension systems that weigh more than the rest of the trailer, and are so complicated that a mechanic needs a special certificate to work on them.

Same goes for wheel bearings. Make sure that the bearings are "standard" Holden or Ford tapered roller bearings, and that the wheel nuts are standard Subaru nuts.

Wheels (tyres and rims) and wheel nuts have to be interchangeable with those on the vehicle.
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Good points there Ratbag. I know Adrian went though this recently with his boat trailer.
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Thanks, Taza.

BTW, ST, same thing goes with the axle - KISS. Make sure that you know what wheel bearings you have fitted - this is CRUCIAL!

If you maintain wheel bearings reasonably well, you should never break an axle stub (or a wheel bearing ... ). Breakages are almost invariably caused by a wheel bearing seizing (lack of lubrication) or breaking (hub nut too loose or too tight).

Checking the hub nut for adjustment once or twice a year should avoid the latter (this is about a 30 second job ... ).

Cleaning and re-greasing the wheel bearings every year or two will avoid the former. Of course the period between inspections and cleaning/re-lubricating will depend on the mileage the trailer travels, to a degree.

Back to the axle.

Should you be unfortunate enough to break one of the stub ends off, it's a piece of the proverbial for a mechanic to ring up the nearest trailer parts manufacturer/supplier and tell them that he needs (e.g.) a 40x40 square axle, 1,900 mm long to suit Holden/Ford wheel bearings. Things get a LOT more complicated with stub axles and independent suspension, which are more likely to break in the first place (IMNSHO).

Some thoughts about all this in my trailer build thread, particularly here:

http://www.offroadsubarus.com/showpo...&postcount=115

and the following post.

Hope this helps a bit.
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For brief moment I thought I might have found a taker for these 14" Liberty 5*100 wheels that are taking up space here :-(

Maybe one day someone will want them for a four-wheel car trailer ...
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