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Unread 21st May 2018, 03:31 AM
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I would like to have more ground clearance in my SH Forester as some of the tracks I have been on have deep wheel ruts that you can't get out of. I researched lift kits, looked at a few SHs with 50mm kits fitted and I couldn't help but notice there was no increase in ground clearance under the rear diff. As this is the piece of mechanical equipment I want to get up in the air a bit more I began to expand my research to see if there was any way of lifting the rear of my Foz in a way that includes the diff. I am thinking lifted springs, even 25mm higher would be better than strut spacers but I can't find them available in Oz. Does anyone know if I am headed up a dead end track with this or is there a better way? (don't worry about bigger tyres as I've already got the biggest that are practical and legal in Qld)
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You should get an increase in clearance for the diff with a lift kit. As the diff is bolted to the body, if you lift the body you lift the diff. Another option is to fit taller tyres, although this has drawbacks as well. Do you have a sump guard fitted?
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What Rally said. A strut top lift will definitely lift your Diff. I've got a SubieLiftOz one. Does the job well and doesn't affect handling noticeably on my SG, not that I throw it arond the corners anyway..

And get a sump guard if you don't have one.


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Whether you use 1" strut top spacers or raised springs, you are still lifting the body and diff. Trouble with both of these is there's no camber or caster offset so the handling isn't as good.

I don’t recommend raised springs, they give a harsh ride & reduce articulation offroad, meaning less grip & more wheel spin. Stock suspension or Kings standard height springs & KYB struts give a nice ride & are the best for offroad

A 2" lift has camber & caster offsets so you keep the good Subaru handling.

With a 2" lift, normally you have a 2" rear subframe spacer kit to maintain the stock suspension geometry & droop. Yes, this will mean the diff is still at stock height but that shouldn't matter, it's the engine sump that's the lowest point in a Subaru & is easily damaged, that's the really important bit to lift up.

Clearance under the diff isn't so important as it's tucked up high out of the way & is a solid chunk of iron. You're extremely unlikely to damage it even doing crazy hardcore 4wd tracks.

If you want, I can do a 2" lift kit with camber & caster offsets & 1" subframe spacer kit. Feel free to PM me for details





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Lift kit as top spacers increases ground clearance as much as spacer is thats all point of lift kit. But if your shocks are shot you should change them first . dont do lift kit on bad tired shocks ad they will get worse.
Lift kit plus little taller tires gives even more ground clearance. But not too high or too wide tires as that would come with power loss which will come to increased mpg as well .
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For me, I think I have a car that does overland and off-road equally well and a better compromise than most. But with any talk of lift kits, you only go as high as you need to. For a lot of people standard height is as high as they need to go.
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well you must know what you need from car. i knew from start and i knew what i will loose to it as well so never regreted nothing i did to car. you must know where you will put car and what you need to be safe there and get back home from there. thats when you start your list on paper or in head . i remember i had 4 passengers in car , so full car , adults not kids. and some bags in trunk as well. and i took car to some forest path i was driving alone with empty car, so i thought will i perform worse there or maybe better. its was ok , car sit little lower but it was enough clearance still.
point is you need to know those things before you go somewhere. lift ,tires, skids and recovery gear is main thing for any light or more hard trips you need to have.
even before buying car you need to learn what it could do and what you could do to it, how much is better or worse then other models and such things. i chose what i needed thats why outback and not forester.
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People new to this stuff don't really know where they want to go or what their car is capable of. Rather than learn how to drive what they have, they are encouraged nto buying a lift kit which is totally unnecessary in many cases. And so they end up with a car that is worse on road for no benefit to them off road if they knew hoe to drive the standard car. Hence why I say learn how to drive off road, then see if the standard car will go where you want to go. If not, lifting it is worthwhile. I find most people don't know how to drive. One trip last year 2 of the guys go stuck going up a hill. Yes, it was a tough track. Both were standard cars. They asked for my help. I got in and just drove up the hill. Neither of them are interested in lift kits now, they just want to be better drivers first and have a car that's better on road too. It's possible to have that compromise.
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its good that someone can help them on those trips. imagine that none had any experience and they end up stuck and damage cars and cant get out .
for me lift didnt made car worse on road at all, nor the tires. so kinda no loss there. i even like car without rear sway bar more . do those SH are so bad ?
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Anyone going on those tracks without experience or ability are nuts. Lift kits and tyres wouldn’t have helped them anyway. Decent diffs would have. Maybe I am more demanding of cars than you as I find such things (tyres, suspension) make a far bigger difference on road than off road.
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