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Glad I saw it.

It wasn't until I realised that the front upper frame was at the wrong end in relation to the way the springs were facing!
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RB, are you SURE it is a slipper? Normally a swing-link one end means it's not. (My bro used to build'em for a living).
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Not absolutely certain, of course.

But if you look at the front end in Lefty's second photo, the end of the spring is pointing downwards, the way a slipper spring does.

A slipper spring with a shackle at the other end will act as a slipper spring (to a degree) at both ends. With any load at all, it will try to flatten itself the way Lefty has described it.

Only Lefty can tell us for sure, or post some photos of both ends of the spring, and one of the complete spring from front to rear taken from the other side of the trailer underneath.
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I would have thought (?) that a slipper with a swing-link (what I've always called them) is going to have location issues. The swing-link is gonna head fore or aft and sit horizontallish. Dunno.

Over to you Phil - what exactly is it?

Also, are those 5x100 hubs or some "foreign" size?
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Lafty,

Let us know what type of springs they are they look like shackle springs to me. Dr Google is your friend

So they should have have an formed eye on each end with a shackle on the trailing end.

If they are the easy way to get a bit more clearance is to fit extended shackles.
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hub is Holden from what I've been told 5x112 ? Definitely not 5x100 I've tried a Subaru rim and it's a no go.
Tyres are 15"

left is back, right is front



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Thanks, Lefty.

Sorry for alarming you unnecessarily. That's exactly how the front and rear should look. Doesn't explain the ease of overloading such a very heavy looking spring though ...

As I said before, a decent trailer place will tell you almost immediately what your problem is being caused by. They see more trailers in a week than most of us will look at in a lifetime!

Good luck with sorting it out, mate.
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Lefty,

Yep shackle springs - longer shackles are available for a trailer place to get you wheel clearance - bet the trailer was built for 13" wheels with Holden rims and that is why you have a clearance problem.

The springs should have some bend when filled to the rated load - if they are flat you need higher rated springs. Remember with out brakes 750 kg is all you can put in the trailer so new springs may not do anything except make the ride of the trailer harder and convince you the trailer is not overloaded when it is.

If Ratbags calcs are correct the springs are probably about right. - Did I hear someone say INSURANCE.

When I tried to replace my trailer springs found out they they were imperial sized and it was going to be a pain - to get new ones to fit I would have to move one of the mounts. yada yada. I haven't changed them.

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Gidday Dave

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Lefty,

Yep shackle springs - longer shackles are available for a trailer place to get you wheel clearance - bet the trailer was built for 13" wheels with Holden rims and that is why you have a clearance problem.
Probably. That's what mine originally had - 165/85 13, or similar. I was quite pleasantly surprised when I worked out that the 215/60 16 would fit. I didn't want to interfere with the guards. I miked them at 4 mm thick. No chance of bending that by jumping on them!

Because my trailer axle is very slightly off square, the P/S wheel now just touches the rear of the mudguard under extreme provocation at speed, off road. I fixed this by welding a bit of 6 mm bar into the slipper box on this side, between the spring and the chassis. That's all it took.
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thanks for all responses. The trailer is a refurbed one that is about 20-30 years old so the 13" rims is probably right.

I guess the easiest option is to simply get 13" rims?
2nd choice is to get extended shackles as suggested.
Flipping the axle is the least attractive option as the trailer will be too high for the Foz.
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