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Old 30th July 2016, 02:48 AM
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There are many AWD vehicles that really can not go off road
Unfortunately, there are now many 'AWD' vehicles that are only AWD 'on demand' - i.e. a second or two after it was absolutely crucial to have it. IMNSHO, these are all but useless, or worse .

Also plenty of SUVs now that are 2WD only, not even AWD 'on demand' ...
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Old 30th July 2016, 06:52 AM
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So what is a Toyota Landcruiser with full time 4wd then ? An AWD?
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Old 30th July 2016, 06:55 AM
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So what is a Toyota Landcruiser with full time 4wd then ? An AWD?
When running around on road its an AWD. Off road you can lock the centre diff making it 4WD.
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Old 30th July 2016, 07:14 AM
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When running around on road its an AWD. Off road you can lock the centre diff making it 4WD.
Just like my Forester then
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Old 30th July 2016, 07:16 AM
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Just like my Forester then
And mine. But not a stock EJ subaru.
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I wonder if the fancy VW Amaroks are allowed in? No 4wd lever, no low range, no 4x4 switch...
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Maybe better have a blingbling 4x4 looking SUV (Dodge Nitro and few others…) than a sophisticated AWD system like our Subarus...
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I think you should be able to pass the X mode button as a 4wd button. It doesn't act as a low but it makes the "awd" act closer to a "4wd" system. Personally I would just tell them that it is a 4wd button. Depending on which model you have you might be able to lock the cvt into a low ratio by sliding it sideway's to the "L", but it sounded like the wanted a separate level for a low range...

Mates 200 series Landcruiser doesn't actually have anything to put it into "4wd", from my understand it just has a torsion LSD and electronics which are always on, making it always an "awd". However it does have a low range level.

Either way the borders between awd and 4wd are very hazy and open to opinions. Over the years I've gone off recreation parks and certain national parks where rangers are there to tell me off for not having the right vehicle.
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Old 31st July 2016, 04:37 AM
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Mates 200 series Landcruiser doesn't actually have anything to put it into "4wd", from my understand it just has a torsion LSD and electronics which are always on, making it always an "awd". However it does have a low range level.
They have a centre diff lock button which puts it into 4WD. Also locks the centre diff automatically when put in low range.


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Either way the borders between awd and 4wd are very hazy and open to opinions.
Well technically 4WD means the average rotational speed of the two front wheels is always equal to the average rotational speed of the two rear wheels.
AWD just means that torque or as ratio of torque is sent to both front and rear wheels (either full time or as required)
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Old 31st July 2016, 09:51 AM
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Quick google found you are right about the 200 having a locking centre diff, meaning i sat through hours of a guy complaining about not having one for no reason.

I like the definition of what you gave as being 4wd, what annoys me is vehicles like the Xtrail and CRV which feature 4wd badges and stickers but send negligible power to the rear wheels. The video below was taken with the Xtrail in LOCK mode and as you can see just spins up the front wheels with the rears doing not much. However having 4wd buttons it would be allowed on the Stradbroke trip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDJ0...ature=youtu.be
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